Are goldstars becoming more common among the younger generation of lesbians in the West?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-16T03:23:48+00:00

Did you lose virginity? I hope you didn't do it if you don't want to and not with someone you don't even feel attracted to.

Dudukolo · 2021-04-08T14:02:16+00:00

May I ask if you are from a Western country?

That's interesting. How common are goldstars among lesbians where you live?

Do you think this is also lead to the social phenomenon of incels/redpillers/MGTOWs?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-08T13:47:13+00:00

I C. Do you think this is a positive (men having much less sex which I assume would make them feel less entitled to women bodies and may positively indirectly impact young lesbians as well as they might feel less heteronormative/"comphet" (I really dislike this term) pressure) or negative thing (creating more incels/redpillers/MGTOWs/MRAs due to higher rates of male virginity and sexlessness)?

Btw can I also ask you something in PM?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-08T03:19:54+00:00

Try Taiwan. They are very accepting of homosexuality and woke-ness/trans stuff seem relatively unknown or unpopular there.

Or Israel. It's pretty first world and homosexuality seems accepted there.

One more option I can think is Thailand. Butch/gnc women are really common and seem widely accepted/tolerated when I visited the country. They are even more common than feminine gay men. There's however a lot of transwomen but they seem to be attracted only to men aka former gay blokes who transitioned so not really a threat to lesbians. Strangely, transmen seems rarer than/uncommon compared to transwomen in Thailand. Furthermore, queer theory and other woke crap are not popular or trendy there. The Thai locals and most other Asians don't seem to even know what woke culture is or followed them. Moreover, catcalling and hitting on women is heavily frowned upon here by the public, so you don't have to worry about dudes trying to harass you if you hold hands with your gf or some other girl. Lesbians also aren't fetishized by males there like in the West. One negative stuff though is despite all of that, gay marriage is still not recognized in Thailand.

Dudukolo · 2021-04-08T01:48:03+00:00

Thanks for the info and explanation!

Don't worry, I browsed redpill/incel forums before. i actually find the comments pretty interesting tbh. I think it reflects what a lot of younger Western men thinks of women.

Do you also agreed with these redpill/incels that young men are having much less sex while for women it remains the same or even increasing?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-08T01:46:04+00:00

Make sense! Although I supported young men having much less sex.

Dudukolo · 2021-04-04T06:19:22+00:00

That's so sad. May I ask if it is a Western country? I would thought that Western countries would be more liberal and progressive in these areas?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-03T15:35:50+00:00

Yep I actually know her. She is a friend of mine.

Dudukolo · 2021-04-03T15:28:18+00:00

Thanks. I can try to contact her although I heard she was banned.

Dudukolo · 2021-04-03T14:08:38+00:00

Holy shit your mother seems crazy. Its great that you have a lot of resilience and backbone. How common are gold stars among young lesbians in your country?

Are you from a religious or conservative background? Where I live, its rather easy to be a goldstar due to extreme stigma towards premarital sex and relationships and that virginity is highly expected and valued for both girls and guys.

Also forced or arranged marriages are very uncommon here, so most lesbians here can remain spinsters for life or be in secret relationships while pretending to be a spinster or single in public.

Dudukolo · 2021-04-03T10:43:22+00:00

I see. Do you think if you were from a liberal or secular background, you would feel much more pressure to lose your virginity with some dude or be sexually positive and date and fuck a bloke even if you are not attracted to males even a bit?

Is it possible that a lot of women who lied that they have to fuck dudes due to religion are actually not lesbians but bis with heavy preference for women or just heavily regret their decisions and thus to try find excuses?

Also is it true that zoomers are having much less sex in the West and virginity rates are increasing among young males? That should makes its easier for lesbians even closeted ones to be goldstars if they feel much less pressure to date, fuck or marry males.

Btw do you mind if I pm you for something?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-03T09:33:04+00:00

Interesting do you think religion is the main reason why you become a goldstar?

Actually I also have met a lot of religious lesbians from the West who claim that due to religion, they have no choice but to date, fuck or marry males as their families see homosexuality as a big sin. Which is strange because I thought if you strictly adhere to your religion, you can actually claim to be saving yourself for marriage to avoid dating or sleeping with males as Christianity and other religions is also heavily against premarital sex and dating as well, seeing it as a big sin. Or are a lot of Western Christians actually only "Christian" in name and their ID cards aka very secular and liberal and nitpick the tenets of the religion they wanted to follow and abandoned other stuff?

Dudukolo · 2021-04-03T09:18:30+00:00

I agreed and point taken, but I actually have been reading that zoomers especially males are having much less sex than their parent generations and that rates of virginity are increasing among young males due to social media, access to porn, and other stuff. So I would presumed that goldstars are now more common among younger generations of lesbians in the West as there are now much less pressure to date, sleep with or marry dudes?

https://www.joe.ie/life-style/amount-men-30-not-sex-nearly-tripled-past-decade-663846 https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1111607604348805120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1111607604348805120%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joe.ie%2Flife-style%2Famount-men-30-not-sex-nearly-tripled-past-decade-663846

Dudukolo · 2021-02-23T02:29:45+00:00

"I also dislike sex with men, and believe me, I tried to like it (I'm not a goldstar). But you see, this is the difference between lesbians and straight/bisexual women."

Hmm what? Bisexual and straight women can also dislike sex with males as well and don't want to do it, you know? How is that the difference?

Dudukolo · 2021-02-23T02:19:22+00:00

Agreed with this.

That's so strange. Why do they think lesbians can't be misandrist and must be indifferent or neutral to males?

Dudukolo · 2021-02-19T00:25:57+00:00

What is your comment? Show me then!! Do not deflect. Cause all I can see is you shitting and getting butthurt on goldstars! Just admit that you hate us.

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T17:07:57+00:00

Fine. I will make a thread either "about that there is nothing wrong with being a goldstar" or asking "if it is ok if I don't want to date or be associated with lesbians who have history with males".

I bet the thread will get removed quickly or get bombarded with insults.

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T17:01:52+00:00

Oh they won't attack or insult me? I'm sure it will fucking happen! Again, it happen in TL and many other lesbian spaces, what's stopping it from happening here?

You can't get through me because I don't believe a damn words of yours.

No its more like those who have been with males feel like they are victims and try to constantly shit and blame goldstars for their pasts!

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T16:53:01+00:00

Really? What were they saying then? Because I can see them bitching and whining about goldstars!

Are you being passive aggressive or trying to be patronizing here? Oh really just, go to r/gaybros, a lot of them are proud of being goldstars, so no you are wrong that most of them don't care or talk about the stuff. They do and they don't have others trying to shit on them or shame them like what many did in the lesbian community. Denied it all you want but anti-goldstar atittude and shaming is widespread in the community and something must be done about it or once again, me and many others would leave the community! I have discussed with many other goldstars before and they told me they are fed up with the negativity and want to completely split off.

Oh yeah? I'm sure if I make a thread like that in here, others are going to start bitching and whining about me being "elitist, divisive, superior", blah blah blah and other shit. I have seen it happened to many others who make such threads in TL and other lesbian spaces before, so you are fucking naive and delusional if you think no one cares or hates goldstars.

I have a problem because you are denying and downplaying the fact that the anti-goldstar sentiment exist in this community when actually it is more rampant than you think. Also your patronizing, condescending attitude and passive aggressiveness is really pissing me off even more!

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T15:40:26+00:00

Oh really no one is against goldstars or attacking us??! No one cares? Have you see how many anti-goldstar rants there are in many lesbian spaces by those have been with males and their doormats/handmaidens calling us "superior, elitist" or whatever crap?? Just look at VioletRemi and Lavalanche comments for example. Why are gay men allowed to be proud of being goldstars (again, I never see them receiving backlash or treated like shit by gay men who have history with women or bisexual men) while lesbians can't? Fuck off with your bullshit and hypocrisy!

Why is Lavalanche ranting against goldstars and using rape/sexual assault victims for her agenda and implying that we are better that those who have history with males if she has no victim mentality and persecution complex? You can denied it as much as you want, but I'm fed up of the anti-goldstar sentiment in the lesbian community. Again, if you hate us so much, just say it to our face, many of us would happily go our own way and leave the community.

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T13:10:41+00:00

This! A lot of us are from homophobic religious backgrounds or conservative societies while a lot of those who have been with men are actually from liberal accepting families or western progressive backgrounds.

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T12:31:33+00:00

And how does all this has to do with the term goldstar? A lesbian who is sexually assaulted is still a goldstar because she didn't consent to sex with a male. Stop using rape and sexual assault victims for your anti-goldstar sentiment.

Seriously, don't project your own victim mentality and persecution complex, other personal issues on golds stars. We never insinuated that we are better than you. That just your own deluded mind. A lot of us also comes from religious backgrounds and homophobic conservative environments unlike the stereotypes that you believe in/love to promoted.

I'm fucking tired of goldstars being treated like shit and vilified in the lesbian community. You don't see this issue among gay men. Gay males can proudly proclaim that they are goldstar and they never get attacked by gay men who have been with women or bisexual men. If y'all hate goldstars so much, just tell us. Many of us would happily go our own way and separated from the community and never return.

Dudukolo · 2021-02-18T12:28:24+00:00

Where did she ever say that type of stuff? Can you please show me?

I am here to defend my friend as she never mentioned such thing.

Dudukolo