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[–]literallyjustvibing[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

see, you've just done what i was talking about in my post. not to sound too angry, but by saying "i suggest lesbian" you're implying that homosexual females who do think transwomen can be lesbians aren't lesbians!! the fact is, there are many different kinds of lesbians, each with different beliefs and values. so, no, "lesbian" does not cut it to describe a lesbian who doesn't think transwomen can be lesbians (even though i agree with that position).

also i'm so glad i found this place, i can't believe all the feminist subs were banned. reddit really does hate women.

[–]TalerTest 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm aware that I just did what you were talking about, it was meant to be ironic, sorry.

I can see a lesbian saying that she believes that transwomen can be lesbians just so others don't call her a bigot, but a woman who will willingly date a transwomen is not a lesbian by definition. Trans woman + biological woman = heterosexual relationship. In this case it's not about beliefs, it's about facts.

[–]literallyjustvibing[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

oh whoops. i'm bad at telling sarcasm sometimes, sorry :). what's the general consensus on the word terf? do most lesbians really dislike being called it? and i still have the question, whats the best neutral term for a lesbian who thinks lesbian = bio woman exclusively attracted to bio woman?

and yes i agree with you on the dating thing. i was just trying to make allowances because the pressure to not be a tRaNsPhObE is very real. but yes, a trans woman and a bio woman dating is a het relationship. any other way doesn't really make any sense.

[–]TalerTest 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think anyone here would care if you called them a TERF because we've all accepted that in 2020 being homosexual makes you transphobic by default. I don't know a neutral term for lesbians who believe in biology, but you're not going to be banned for using TERF in a non-derogatory way so don't worry

[–]literallyjustvibing[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

okay good to know. lesbians are so abused and clowned on everywhere online i didn't want to come into one of the rare safe spaces and make everyone uncomfortable. so i will use it but be careful