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[–]VioletRemi 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

That gender and queer theoris are hurting lesbian women so much. Those people just hate women and want to erase lesbians. I think you should try to find a way to make other lesbians to realize that you are just oldschool butch lesbian, and not part of this new mess. Maybe something "I am female and I am proud to be a woman, a lesbian", it need more thinking and depends on country you are from, I guess.

In LGB and Feminism movements we were fighting for everyone to accept women and lesbians as we are. And those queer-creeps are returning gender stereotypes back. And that hurts, and discouraging. So our fight for sweet spot under Sun is not ended yet, I suppose.

I am very bad at helping people with a good word, but I have an experience of hating my body and hating of myself being a woman. It was long before all this queer storm. I can tell you my story, maybe it can help you. As nowadays I love myself and proud to be who I am.

Half of my body is just scars. I have more than 20 big scars, my face is scared, my spine and sides are scared, my left hand is full of small scars.

Everything started from early school. I am redhead, and I was the only redhead in school, and maybe in city. And in addition to that, I have synesthesia and I was "weird" on explaining or asking teachers, as I was asking colors and other stuff. And it was in USSR, where everyone had same style, same looks, same hairstyle, same cloths - just because nothing else was selling in shops.

At some stage boys who were 4-5 years years ahead, started learning about inquisition, and they found there that ginger people are witches. A lot of people in school started mocking me. And it ended with few of them trying to actually burn me, that left big ugly scars on my neck and shoulder, and my hair almost completely burned, so I was bald. Bald girl was even more of a mocking. And then my periods started... I tried to wear boys uniform, was cutting my hair all the time, tried to be with boys, to act like I am not a woman, I tried to escape being myself. I thought I was born as a wrong sex, and I liked mostly girls too, so I had wrong sexual attraction too (I did not know lesbians exist back then, tho). Most of my life I was dyeing my hair because of that. And I was wearing cloths that were covering my scars. I never was going into public beaches to swim.

And then in my student years, students somewhere learned that I am a lesbian, and beat the sh*t out of me, and Principle stopped them from doing even worse. They were beating with legs, while I was laying on the ground. It broke my hand and made me suffer few body malfunctions I am still suffering, and it left scars, a lot. And one was on chin on face. I started hating myself and my body even more, but I was not able to hide scars anymore, so I was very uncomfortable even just walking around.

Then I found one woman, butch lesbian. She was few years older than me and grown up from hating her "masculine" body (she had problems with testosterone, but not yet PCOS), and started helping me to start loving myself. I really loved her too. And I slowly started stopping hating my body, I even started growing long hair again, few times even not dyed hair. And then...we were in bus, and car crushed from side. She died instantly, and I was pierced by a lot of metallic pieces, broke my ribs, one piece went through breasts, and my face got big scar, almost cutting my eye off (sorry it is a bit hard to write). So my body became even more scared, even more ugly, and even my face became ugly. And she was not there anymore to calm me down, to help me love myself. So I went full in self-loathing.

I spend in that state a lot of years, until one evening I was very nostalgic, looking at stars outside and listening to music, first played AC "Take it like a woman" (song is very close to home, so I love it, and Alice Cooper have few more songs like that "Only Women Bleed" and "Is it my body?") and then DT "Octavarium", and then BJ "Its my life", and I was recalling my times, when I fought through everything society was throwing at me, my time when I was refused work because I am woman, when I stood bravely against students who beaten me, when I was on LGB protests, and was arrested for that, and so on, that I was always going forward regardless of everything, and I was still hating my body and afraid what society thinks about me. And then I thought only one thought "What the f*ck I owe to them?" - just like that. They made my life hell on Earth, they were torturing myself whole life, and I still must afraid them not liking how I look or act? F*ck them, it is my life, my body, and I live for myself. And since then I started trying to love myself, all my scars, my hair color, my body, everything. And it is so much easier. Who cares what someone thinks? Am I living for them? No. Never.

Oh woman, that is a lot of text. It is way too messy, sorry for such dump of thoughts.

I hope it can help you.

[–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Now I think, it is a bit selfish to cry like this. Sorry again. And sorry for swearing too.

Maybe I should delete this.

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    [–]VioletRemi 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    This made me feel so ridiculous in comparison

    I was afraid that it will look like that, like I am trying to say "your problems are nothing". While it is not true, everyone problems are something and must be helped. I just was not able to stop venting, at least it is now a bit easier. Sorry for this, and I am glad it helped you. Be yourself, and live happy, we, women, all deserve happy life.

    And by the way, maybe those songs may help you too. Lyrics in Alice Cooper ones are pretty great, at least for me they are empowering and I feel like he is praising women for being so stoic (and neolib feminists called those songs sexist, lol).

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    You're not ridiculous. Pain is pain, and trauma is trauma. A bunch of people might look at your writing and say, "I don't have it that bad by comparison." If you have two people who went through different trauma-- in some limited contexts it makes sense to "compare" trauma in order to determine how much damage was done, and what each person needs correspondingly. But I think most times, it makes more sense to say that if the line was crossed, then that's trauma, and all trauma is worth talking about and healing from. The stuff you went through sounds like it was horrible to experience, and it's worth talking about.

    Just my worldview, but: the truth has power-- and value-- simply because it exists. Your story is your truth, and it matters too.

    Good luck in figuring everything out :)

    [–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Good post!

    Current LGBTQ+ is about "who's oppression is bigger and who have more oppression points to make focus on them", and that just makes no one to receive help in the end! Instead of trying to help all of us.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I'm so sorry all that happened to you. Your story is amazing! Thanks for sharing.

    I also have synesthesia, if you want to talk about it! But I don't want to derail this post. :)

    [–]VioletRemi 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    Not sure what to talk about synesthesia, I was just weird to people, because they were saying for me words and I was asking colors instead. I guess I looked so cringe to everyone. Not sure how I personally would react if I was on their side. Words for me are all in shapes, while smells in colors. I think it is also a reason why I am so liking scent of women, as it is not only smell to me, but more.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    There are a bunch of different types of synesthesia! It sounds like you might have odor-color synesthesia. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170821105523.htm#:~:text=Synesthesia%20is%20an%20extraordinary%20phenomenon,in%20another%2C%20such%20as%20taste.&text=In%20comparison%2C%20odor%2Dcolor%20synesthesia,experiences%20when%20they%20smell%20odors.

    That makes makes sense why people would be confused; it's probably hard for people without it to understand. The way I found out I had synesthesia, I was trying to explain to some people how whenever I hear someone talking out loud, I see the words that they are saying in my mind's eye, scrolling. That type is called ticker tape synesthesia. Some of those people seemed like they thought I was crazy, which was intimidating. Fortunately, someone else was there who knew all about it and backed me up.

    I get why you would like women's smell so much, because of synesthesia. I play a musical instrument and one of the other types of synesthesia I have makes me see colors when I hear the musical notes (one color per note). I've had that ever since I was really little and I thought everyone else saw notes as colors, lol.

    Sorry if this is too much to read haha, I am fascinated by synesthesia.

    edit: a word

    [–]VioletRemi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That is interesting. And what about shapes instead of words and thoughts? I can't even explain this to anyone. As when I am thinking, there no words or anything, it is just a bunch of colored shapes and figures. And no one can understand, and I can't say it with words too. Like if in my mind dark green circle, it is "bad weather". And it is instead of thoughts, not accompanying them. It actually took me some time with psychiatrist to start understanding words and how to communicate normally with people, as words/sounds for me is pretty foreign and alien concept. People saying that they hear voice in head or see words when thinking, and it is something I can't understand.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That is absolutely fascinating. Hmm, I am trying to find a peer-reviewed articles on shapes. This is a news article about a guy who sees ideas and thoughts as differently-shaped clouds of dots. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/07/whats-it-like-to-see-ideas-as-shapes/492032/

    I'm not sure how much this site is backed by research, but seems to be about giving an introduction to synesthesia. This page talks about seeing things as colors and shapes. https://synesthesia.com/blog/types-of-synesthesia/

    u/CunningAndKnave sorry to divert your post! Maybe I will make a different post about synesthesia, lol.

    [–]VioletRemi 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, and searching for this is hard, because even describe it is very hard. Funny how even this is more researched than some lesbian or women troubles.

    [–]oofreesouloo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Omg, thanks for sharing your story. I wish I could hug you right now and I'm glad you're in a better place now.

    [–]Dykexmachina 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    That's good that you're making some progress feeling more comfortable with your body. Those small gains in confidence can go a long way. I know what you mean about women assuming you're a genderfuck woman lol, I'm pretty masculine as well and get that sometimes too. I just casually correct them if they assume I'm a "he", and usually they're really nice about it. Even if they aren't nice about it, then they don't deserve to know you anyway.

    When I hit it off with a woman, and I can tell she isn't sure of my "identity" yet, I've learned to find ways to casually hint to the fact that I'm a woman/lesbian during a conversation. It's hard to think of a specific example, it depends on the context/depth of the conversation. I've noticed a lot of people ease up and feel more comfortable talking to me once they know I "identify" as a woman. I think usually people are just cautious and don't want to offend or assume the wrong ~pronouns~, which is annoying as hell, but that's the gender world we live in unfortunately, and it just takes some practice navigating it as a masculine lesbian. On the bright side, I've found that a lot of women and other lesbians (sometimes even other masc women) are attracted and drawn to the confidence of a butch who is unapologetic and proud of being a woman.

    It's definitely hard maintaining that confidence though, with body dysmorphia/dysphoria. It just takes practice. I wish I had better advice lol. But the right people will see and accept you for you. I totally get what you mean about getting dysphoria from being perceived a certain way due to being female. I realized that too a while back. It's not that we don't like being women or having breasts or whatever, it's the misogyny and sexualization of those features that makes it so uncomfortable. One thing that's helped me a lot is talking to other masculine women about this stuff and realizing we're not alone in all this.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    Just wanted to say I really like your username, lol.

    [–]Dykexmachina 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks! 😎

    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Lesbians will be able to tell you’re a woman. I can spot a dyke at 50 yards. Don’t worry about it

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      [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      If they are interested in butch women they will either ask or wait to find out. There is nothing to worry about. The only hard thing is external pressure to stop being a woman. And women who treat you like “the man.” But otherwise I am sure most would be happy you’re not some kind of gender. But you can only verify this in the actual world

      [–]Dykexmachina 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      I worry too about people assuming I'm some genderbread person. It's literally so embarrassing to be associated with it. I want a sign or shirt or something that signals to everyone around me that I have nothing to do with that shit lol.

      [–]randomcolumn 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Way to go on so much self reflection and evaluation!! That's tough work. I have no good advice for moving forward, but I'm very proud of you :)

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          [–]oofreesouloo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          You're a woman. There's no "body type" for a woman. You're either a woman or you aren't. I think you're associating a certain body type to being more 'womanly' than others and that's false. The only requirement to being a woman is being born one. Biology does the rest. There are women who will be attracted to you just like you are :)

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            [–]oofreesouloo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Exactly. It doesn't matter how masculine you want to dress or how short your hair is. Your body will ALWAYS be of a woman's. Biology doesn't lie haha.

            [–]sunzzy 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            That sounds a little similar to what I felt when I thought that I was trans. I mistook wishing I could be a man and wishing I could be straight for actually being born in the wrong body. I think a lot of us at one point have wished that , life would be easier in many ways. It did really shock me how quickly after I told my GP that I was trans for me to end up on the waiting list for hormones, only about six months and one therapy session which barely went into any detail about why I felt that way. I am so glad that I came to the realisation before I made any permanent decisions.

            Make sure you take some time to care for yourself, even if you might not always like your body its kept you alive for your entire life and I think that's something worth celebrating (I know it might sound a little dumb but it made me feel better:) ) If you want to look more womanly now could be a time to try a new style or new hair, whatever makes you feel comfortable. You deserve to feel good about yourself!!