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[–]Femaleisnthateful 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Andrew Sullivan published a great substack article today in which he identified the problem as a breach of the social contract. Gays won rights through public discussion and debate. They were asking for equality, with the understanding that people were free to hold personal beliefs about homosexuality, marriage equality etc without being persecuted themselves.

That social contract has been broken in an increasingly authoritarian quasi-religious 'no debate' mindset wherein anyone who holds dissenting beliefs is branded a 'hater'.

This isn't going over well especially with people who already have a religion and don't want to be persecuted for it.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think a bunch of atheists tricked themselves into believing they are secular(maybe even by equating the two). When you're officially opposing the teachings of some imposing religion(perhaps one you have left) for a humanist movement, it's easy to get seduced into the mindset that it could never then happen to you; You couldn't become fooled. You don't go to church. You are so much smarter then those bible-thumpers.

So you can have your gender priests telling you right to your face what the main tenets of your religion are, with Tracts and everything. And perhaps how to go about disowning family/relatives and socially ostracizing other nonbelievers. But you're so thoroughly inoculated against the possibility that you are indoctrinated; Because popular culture has already established that that sort of thing can only happen to people on the other side on the political spectrum.

It's no coincidence that so many in the Skeptics community got pulled into becoming TRAs without much resistance. Because they've already long written off any chance of brainwashing. In a way, I guess Gender Ideology separated the Skeptic wheat(e.g. Richard Dawkins) from the chaff(e.g. Matt Dilahunty).

[–]bife_de_lomo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is some surprising clarity on that thread.

[–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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