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[–]JulienMayfair 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Doctors used to say that being gay was a mental illness, and doctors still classify depression as a mental illness. Should doctors stop regarding depression as a mental illness and stop treating it because being gay was once considered e mental illness? They are apples and oranges.

Feeling like you were born in the wrong body is not the same as being sexually attracted to members of your own sex.

The mental illness aspect of homosexuality was really a transitory thing in the 20th century. The much-longer debate was a moral/ethical one concerning whether or not having sexual relations with someone of the same sex was morally or ethically wrong. That's an entirely different question from whether or not someone who is born male can become female.

[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hear, hear!

I think about this sort of thing a lot. Am I on "the wrong side of history" because I don't like the current transgender trend and think that it's gotten way out of hand? When I say, "I don't care how someone wants to identify as long as they don't turn it into my problem somehow," am I being the same as those who said, "I don't mind gay people, just don't shove it in my face"? Many people that are mired in the activism, as well as lots of people who only know about trans stuff through popular media, think of the trans stuff as being the next big civil rights movement. Are they right? Am I just being an out-of-touch old fogey who is resistant to societal change?

It's quite insidious the ways that we're being trained to question ourselves. Something about "trans liberation" is very different than "gay liberation," but the way things are portrayed, it's very difficult to pinpoint exactly what that something is, and if you can, you're made to feel unreasonable.

I don't think it's unreasonable to be against sweeping societal changes to cater to a very small percentage of people. Asking someone for their pronouns upon first meeting them is completely unnecessary for the vast majority of people in their everyday lives, and yet we're being told we're insensitive for not wasting brainpower and time on completely unneeded things, because there are a small handful of people in the world who are annoyed at having to deal with having "different" pronouns that they themselves chose? It sounds completely batshit, but everyone seems to go along with it.