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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Almost all abortions happen in the 1st trimester. Long before the fetus is an infant.

Women have a right to bodily autonomy, just like men.

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    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    So, if I needed a new kidney to live and you were the only match you should be forced to give one of your new kidneys to me? If you didn't you would be depriving me of that right.

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      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      And what actions would those be? From what I've seen they are looking to ban ALL abortions. Including those that result from rape or incest. If a woman can be forced to give birth from a pregnancy that she has no fault in then you should be forced to give me one of your kidneys if I need it to live.

      [–]CancelPowerSuper Bi Male 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The way that I see it is that it's true, there are differences in treatment and double standards between men and women. As an example, forced draft, men shouldn't be forced to fight or do anything just because of their gender.

      However, the solution isn't to limit women's rights or take them away. The solution is to apply equality. Give women the right to abortion, they deserve it and need it BUT also apply draft for them because it's not fair to use men as cannon fodder just because of their gender. Also, ban genital mutilation for men, it's disgusting.

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        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        You're saying women don't have a right to bodily autonomy, even in cases where she was forcibly impregnated, which is dehumanizing. No one should be forced to be life support for another person.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Hey you two:

        u/Vesuvius
        u/sneeuweekhoorn

        You're getting deep into the weeds - which I think we all understand - but abortion and womens rights aren't the focus of this sub or the post itself. You're both derailing.

        This is an LGB space, so you need to wrap it up and get back to talking about LGB, or take this elsewhere. Some off-topic conversation is fine, but your exchanges have become a debate, and we aren't a debate sub. We ESPECIALLY are not a debate sub about general men/women rights.