Indoctrination / DoublethinkUncomfortable topics, indeed... and for a good reason

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[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have no problem with paedophilia being studied but when you start using terms like MAP in an attempt to soften the truth, I’m immediately going to question your real motives.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Especially because "minor" describes a legal age of consent rather than a typo of morality or scientific analysis of how sex acts affect a child. The law can redefine what a minor is on a whim without it being good or bad.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. Why are people using euphemisms? I thought the point was to increase transparency, not obscure discussion of these topics more.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I mean, I too support "the freedom to study uncomfortable topics". Maybe the TQ should practice what they preach and stop bullying academics, journalists and clinicians trying to study ROGD, gender dysphoria and detransitioners.

Nevertheless, it seems worrisome that the euphemism 'MAP' is becoming mainstream. The inevitable blowback against the LGBTQ is going to be fierce.

[–]julesburm1891 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly. I’m all for studying them to better understand how to keep them from hurting kids. But, call them what they are—pedophiles. Call their condition what it is—a paraphiliac perversion that harms children. Stop tip-toeing around with these euphemisms.

Furthermore, “the freedom to study uncomfortable topics” is not what these people actually want. They’re out here on every platform going on about “MAP pride” and how they really aren’t that bad. These bastards are going to try to use this as a bridge to push those harmful messages and drag us along.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. The not-so-hidden agenda is the normalization of pedophilia, much the same way as violent and degenerate sexual proclivities have been normalized with prohibitions on 'kink-shaming', and sexual exploitation of women is normalized as 'sex work is work'.

[–]julesburm1891 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1000% agree.

“We aren’t trying to normalize pedophilia. We just want you to refer to it by another name because calling it that is so alienating and offensive. Please ignore the army of pedophiles publicly stating that this is an attempt to normalize pedophilia.”

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just posted a comment about euphemisms before I saw yours. I agree and I'm disturbed that there seems to actually be some modicum of support for "MAP awareness" this time around.

[–]julesburm1891 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ugh. You just know by looking at her that she’s straight and will totally try to explain to you what being gay is really about.

[–]Dromedary 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"As a 2d year Forensic Psych student.." 2 years! I've been gay for 40 years, and what a stupid crunt. Yeah, fuck this chick acting like that has ANY authority while trying to tie pedos to gays, it is monstrous and reprehensible. And you KNOW she thinks of herself as the wokiest wokester who LOVES the gay/lesbian community. But she's laundering something heinous we gays have forever WANTED NO PART OF. EXPRESSLY!

Something that really bothers me, is that feminists like Anna Slatz do good stuff on trans lunacy, but she does these reports on NAMBLA and such and she has this young person's idea that the gay community was all as networked and wired and even a THING for most gays (or any group) in the 60s and 70s as they are today. It's a (really dumb) conception of the world before the internet. There WAS no real "gay community" in the 70s that could get together and vote out NAMBLA. Most gays were busy throwing off their repressive childhoods and fucking a lot- they weren't active members of a groups, writing letters and licking stamps to be politically active, jeez. It took effort to be "involved" in something like the gay rights movement and there were GREAT costs and risks to it if your friends/family/neighbors/employers found out you were gay. This isn't understood or appreciated by young women like Slatz, at all. So if NAMBLA got a foothold in the nascent gay rights movement of the 1970s, 99 percent of gays had no fucking idea about that. And when they learned it, the pedos were kicked right the fuck out. I hugely mistrust straight women who pretend to be gay allies and act like enemies, Slatz and Miss PhD Pedo-defender here. Jesus, just get LOST.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 15 insightful - 8 fun15 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

I don't usually approve of angry mobs chasing people with pitchforks but...

[–]MisandryFTW 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they deserve respect

I'm sorry but if you want to have sex with someone who can't consent you don't deserve respect. It must really suck to have those feelings but please don't try to make it into an orientation and help them justify their feelings. Do you think someone should say, "I also study ways to increase well-being for serial killers because they are human beings and deserve respect." or "I also study ways to increase well-being for rapists because they are human beings and deserve respect."