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[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Is it becoming a thing for straight guys to pretend to be “gay” to sleep with transmen (and Im assuming quite a few of these “transmen” look very clearly female, maybe with like a “gender neutral” hair cut or some shit)? Or are these ladies just lying on the internet?

Because I know gay men aren’t actually sleeping with them.

Genuinely asking because these posts pop up a lot and I’m always so floored by the number of responses and I can’t tell if the commenters are full of shit or being played.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, you've got a bunch of women, some of whom aren't even very masculine looking, literally begging for dick. How often do you see anything like that? I'd be shocked if there weren't any straight men taking advantage of the situation.

And anyway, straight men pretending to be gay in order to bypass women's defenses wasn't a completely unheard of phenomenon even before now:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/mar/16/ameliahill.theobserver https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/women-warm-up-faster-to-gay-men-than-straight-guys-study-suggests.html

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Is it becoming a thing for straight guys to pretend to be “gay” to sleep with transmen (and Im assuming quite a few of these “transmen” look very clearly female, maybe with like a “gender neutral” hair cut or some shit)?

In certain social circles i wouldn't doubt it because of the weird inverted social pressure where people are now attacked for being "cishet".

I bring this up often here but i specifically know a guy that does the exact opposite. He is gay and pretends to be "nonbinary" so he can fuck closeted gay guys who can't cope with the social pressure of admitting they are gay. He reassures them that they are straight because he wears makeup and has long hair.

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every "gay" guy I know who sleeps with transmen calls himself queer but secretly recognizes that he is bi. Most people read these guys as gay because they are feminine. Both worked for their respective AIDS Networks as outreach workers. One of them now is pursuing a PhD.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes they wander over from a sub that likes to brigade other subs (as we have seen earlier this week). So that skews the proportion of approving responses.

can’t tell if the commenters are full of shit or being played

And wanting to be played because reality sucks. Mass delusion is prettier.

[–]7874 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are bi guys who think they're gay but they also like highly masculine women and have a bunch of contradictions in their head like "oh it doesn't count", "it's even gayer that i'd want to be bullied and dominated by a woman" (because he "should" be dominating her like a "real man").

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

joking, but- is it rape by deception for a straight guy to pretend to be a gay guy to sleep with a transman?

And if it’s not rape by deception can we please agree to refer to the this as “vali-dating”?