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[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I want to emphasize, I am not here to bash Helena, I think she does a fantastic job of speaking out about detransitioners' issues. However, I think it's fair to say that this is a pretty clear example of straight people "colonizing" LGB spaces. But at the end of the day, there are no repercussions for them leaving, because they aren't actually same-sex attracted, it's just an "identity" to put on and take off for them, like clothes.

Also-- I sometimes hear people on this sub say, "That never happens! Straight people NEVER pretend to be bisexual!" Well, here's your example.

edit: I should probably clarify, Helena did not intentionally "pretend" to be bisexual, it sounds like she genuinely thought she was back when she was confused. But she is a straight person who claimed she was bisexual when she wasn't.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think this is a "colonizing" of lgb spaces or putting on an identity. She was a confused child. God i can't imagine growing up now it must be completely confusing.

She thought she was a man and she though she was with another man who was also a woman. Gender ideology destroys words and reality like a cult and people end up doing weird things. She and the other girl trauma bonded. It's a big mess.

This is something else completely than a 30 year old straight guy calling himself queer because he's "non binary".

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think this is a "colonizing" of lgb spaces or putting on an identity. She was a confused child. God i can't imagine growing up now it must be completely confusing.

She was an adult for some of it, though. And regardless of age, it's still colonizing LGB spaces that would've otherwise been for LGB teens/young adults her age. Perhaps I just find it easier to call her out for it because she's very close to my own age. It's frustrating as hell to watch my peers do this shit, and I think they ought to take responsibility for their actions. I actually really enjoy and appreciate Helena's interviews and work in the detrans community, but I also think it's fair to criticize her for this.

If you think the flair is misleading, though, I could switch it-- I was debating flairing it as "bisexual" as well since it's related to bi issues.

This is something else completely than a 30 year old straight guy calling himself queer because he's "non binary".

Yeah, that's true, and also, it still results in LGB spaces being taken over by straight people. I would call these both "colonizing," but perhaps opinion varies among this sub.

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To be fair is all a confusing mess to everyone and it's only normal we all have our different takes on this.

I can't wait for this fad to be over but i fear the aftermath will be horrible aswel with so many young people traumatised.