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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

false: Gay men are all inexperienced bisexuals - because he is.

Only a tiny, and I mean tiny portion of gay men are 'gold star', so this point is... strange, to say the least.

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    [–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I may be confused by your point : You think most gay men are in fact bisexual and the the reason they don’t sleep with women is they are uncertain what to do?

    No, my point is that saying gay men only want to date and have sex with other men because of inexperience with women is bullshit.

    As for the gold star thing, this study suggests that 61% of gay men have never had sex with a woman: https://contexts.org/blog/sexual-orientation-versus-behavior-different-for-men-and-women/

    Most of these studies base their data on samples from 1st world countries, sometimes even ultraliberal areas within these countries, where gay men and lesbians are less pressured to be in relationships with people of the opposite sex.

    I wonder how would these figures look like if they were based on a more homophobic country.

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      [–]emptiedriver 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      The numbers probably changed rather dramatically after the gay rights movement. When I was young, the idea of a "gold star" especially for a lesbian was rare, because it had been rare to have the opportunity to come out until later in life, and people had been expected by peers to be dating in high school. Plenty of people "lost their virginity" or had standard hetero relationships during their adolescence/ college years, before figuring out or making public what they really wanted.

      Now it's so well established that gay is a normal possibility that kids come out even before their first kiss and don't worry as much about hiding it from the world - maybe they won't share it with certain individuals, but most aren't in the closet to the degree that they have full relationships to try to fit in while they figure out who they are. Except of course, that things are changing again as a new generation is introduced to the idea that it's bigoted to have a "genital preference"...