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[–]Criticallacitirc[S] 41 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't have to read any books or blogs to learn how to be a gay man, I just am one.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 32 insightful - 9 fun32 insightful - 8 fun33 insightful - 9 fun -  (3 children)

But I thought trans guys were literally no different to regular guys, why do you have to be taught how to emulate their behaviour? /s

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

But I thought trans guys were literally no different to regular guys, why do you have to be taught how to emulate their behaviour? /s

There was an support group on the college I study where their whole stick was to teach masculinity to FtMs.

Yes, really.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

There was an support group on the college I study where their whole stick was to teach masculinity to FtMs.

Yes, really.

Ooh, I've gotta get in on this! "OK, bros, first lesson in Masculinity 101 is: give me your PIN number. Oh, that's a security risk, huh? Well BOO-FUCKIN'-HOO, ya little crybaby! Real men LIVE for risk! Next up: devote your ENTIRE LIFE to watching football, working on your car, and mowing the lawn. Do not, I repeat, do NOT leave your man-cave for ANYTHING, especially going to gay bars, clubs, or bathhouses. Got it? Finally, be the Strong and ESPECIALLY Silent type. Do NOT ever say ANOTHER FUCKING WORD. Not in spoken form, not in text, not in goddamn SEMAPHORE, not in interpretive dance. If silence is manly-- and it fucking well is-- be the MANLIEST MAN WHO EVER MANNED and keep your petulant whinings about "cis gay" dick to yourself. FOREVER."

Here, as they say, endeth the fuckin' lesson :)

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sad just how much nonsense they're shoving into curriculums these days.

[–]hellonumpty 27 insightful - 11 fun27 insightful - 10 fun28 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

but overnight I went from being straight to gay

lol

I'm probably gonna be that person who awkwardly misread social cues and tells a guy I like him only for him to tell me he's straight.

Ffs.

Still pre-everything

Pre everything, so of course, the top priority is to try to bag a date with a gay man.

[–]dilsencySame-sex community 25 insightful - 9 fun25 insightful - 8 fun26 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

not only did I realize I'm trans, but overnight I went from being straight to gay

So she went from liking guys, to... liking guys? Why is this confusing for her?

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This emanates that same "I just discovered that I'm a lesbian" energy from the AGPs: they're fetishists, that's just it.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just watched the music video for Avicii's Addicted to You, which feature two bisexual women (not lesbians as there's a scene where they're in bed together surrounded by naked men), and pretty much every fucking comment is how everyone who watched it realised they were lesbians (not bisexual, not gay, but specifically lesbians). It's pretty unpleasant to see.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 7 fun24 insightful - 6 fun25 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

When I meet a group of guys, how do I know if one of them is hitting on me or just being friendly?

A group of gay guys? They're just being friendly and not flirting because they're gay and into men and not women because they're, you know, gay, which you are not.

tells a guy I like him only for him to tell me he's straight.

He might not be interested for a whole number of reasons, but straight won't be one of them.

[–]censorshipment 21 insightful - 7 fun21 insightful - 6 fun22 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Why make your life harder on purpose?? Date a man who wants to pound your pussy. Shouldn't matter if he "identifies as" straight, bi, gay, pan, blah blah blah. It's just about sex anyway... so if the dick gets hard when you are naked, spread them thighs and let him pound!!!

Labor Day drunkenness yall... don't mind me. 😂

[–]Rosefield 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why make your life harder on purpose??

Straight men = bad

Gay men = fetish fuel & precious not-straight cinammon rolls

It's insane that they know gay men aren't attracted to women & fetishize them because of that & yet they are screeching because that includes them.

And ironically they call guys who are actually interested in them chasers and hate them. What a sick, perverse, homophobic ideology.

For them there is no solution to this "problem" besides forcing gays to date them. But since that doesn't work they doomed themselves to a life of endless anger, frustration & homophobia.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

I'm really worried cause there's hot guys EVERYWHERE and I'm probably gonna be that person who awkwardly misread social cues and tells a guy I like him only for him to tell me he's straight.

Well obviously this woman should cancel her plans to alter her body and appearance and continue being a straight woman. Gay men are only 2% of the adult male population, bisexual men are only 3%, and top that off, no gay man and most bi men don’t want a trans "boy"friend. If this woman goes through with her half-baked ideas she’s going to cut down her dating pool from 98% of men to less than 1%. Because when a man looks for a relationship, he wants somebody who’s sane.

[–]JulienMayfair 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I came here to say exactly this. She has just slashed her dating pool to a percentage approaching zero. It's awful seeing people making decisions like this that are only going to make them unhappy, but what can you do?

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could talk these people out of making these decisions, although socially or even legally, you’re not allowed to do that anymore.

[–]cutenoobies 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She has just slashed her dating pool to a percentage approaching zero

Which would also be the fault of gay men who would not date her at all.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Your stats are totally real. Althought the stats for pure homosexuality might be even less I guess.But damn, way to reduce your dating poll to sad numbers on purpose

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I also think that a homosexual who gets a "sex change" is also reducing his or her dating pool, because not only do straight people remain unwilling to sleep with him or her, but now homosexuals of his or her sex are no longer interested.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly....as a lesbian I find masculine women to be very attractive, but if she cuts off her tits, grows a beard, goes bald, gets ab implants, and all the other things testosterone does to a woman....that's a hell no.

[–]DimDroog 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of the local librarians just started this nonsense.

She was a butch lesbian, library was undergoing renovations, hadn't seen her in months, and then this "man" now working at the refurbished library.

It's sad. I don't get it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hear that a lot of trans "men" pursue lesbians and get angry when these lesbians reject them. Yes, trans "men" are women, they are female after all, but they also look like deformed teenage boys and I don’t think lesbians find that attractive. Not to mention all the mental health problems on top of all that.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think there are a good size of het men who would date a post-op trans. Now the type of these men might not be great though. I've read men praising trans for being more feminine (aka more submissive and wanting to please) than real women. Dunno whether an homosexual transwoman will have more opportunities than a simply feminine gay guy. Het wome, I'm pretty sure they just want a real working dick.

[–]pacmanla 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As a heterosexual male, I respectfully disagree with a "good number" of hetero men being willing to date or do anything with a post-op (inverted penis) transwoman (male). There was a story about a guy who felt guilted into an "encounter" with a neovagina & how it was nothing like an organic, biologcal vagina. This man also said the trans smelled male & he just knew it was still a male. This guy said he literally cried after the encounter & is now in therapy. This was posted on a forum for neovagina disasters.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This guy said he literally cried after the encounter & is now in therapy.

Holy shit!

I feel sorry for him...

This just goes to show how TRA ideology is shit even to straight people.

[–]Rosefield 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

LMAO there is 100% NOT a good number of straight men willing to date other men who think they are women.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think there are a good size of het men who would date a post-op trans.

Nope, just nope.

Neovaginas pale in comparison to the real thing and most straight men can clock one instantly.

I've read men praising trans for being more feminine (aka more submissive and wanting to please) than real women.

These are GAMPs, not your average straight men.

[–]JulienMayfair 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

From another post by the same person:

So like...I dunno if my imagination just sucks or whatever, but I'm having a really hard time picturing myself "as a guy" or in a male body, if you will.

Like I've tried to make comparisons to my dad and brother, but I look like a carbon copy of my mom so I'm at a loss. I look in the mirror and try really hard to picture myself with a cut jawline and facial hair, and I deepen my voice as much as I can to try and get a feel for what it'll sound like, and even with binding it's hard to ignore the very obvious extra weight in my chest area that shouldn't be there. So I just end up feeling defeated because no matter how much I exercise my imagination, I feel like I just can't get an accurate or even remotely close idea of my true male form. My current body is not a man's, but it's the only one I've known all my life so I hate that my whole life up to now I've had no idea what it's like to be in a man's body. Probably why I find it so hard to imagine what it's like to be in one because I just have no experience to compare it to.

Reading things like this, I think "Life is hard enough as it is without trying to be something you aren't."

[–]SerpensInferna 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What seems especially tragic to me is the complete b.s. these kids are being fed. Honey, you don't have a man's body and you will never have a man's body. You may have a deepened voice and be able to grow facial hair, but your proportions will always be off, your shoulders narrow, your waist curved and hips flared, and a working penis from which you can derive pleasure is nothing more than a fantasy (and that's after torturous and completely unnecessary surgeries).

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but this ideology is quite literally destroying lives. I have seen numerous detrans women who will never get their perfectly healthy breasts back or who will always have a baritone voice. It's so completely infuriating.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It’s almost as if deep down she knows it’s a pointless endeavour. She’d be a lot happier if she just changed her attitude.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This smells like a future suicide after she realises all of the hormones in the world won't make her happy or change who she really is.

[–]JulienMayfair 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sadly, that's exactly what happened to a woman I was friends with in graduate school. She transitioned during the program, but several years later, she told me that transition hadn't solved the problems she'd hoped it would solve. She eventually committed suicide. That's a big part of why I feel bad for these people. We may laugh at the absurdity of it, but it's a tragedy in progress.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. I'm currently keeping a quiet eye on a twentysomething friend who realized she was a lesbian when she was a teenager. She's now FTM, it appears. We are not in close contact but I'm hoping she had some guidance and followed a supervised process. I suspect not, though.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which is why I hope she changes her mind and embraces her womanhood before it’s too late.

[–]strawberrycake 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There must be something in the water… I know two different women in heterosexual relationships that have come out as some sort of trans all of a sudden. It seems to come out of nowhere like this reddit user who was straight yesterday.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

"And I have absolutely no clue how male/male relationships work"

Gee, I wonder why. 🤔

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

"And I have absolutely no clue how male/male relationships work"

Gee, I wonder why. 🤔

Verily, 'tis a mystery for the AGES.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is this peak narcissism right here? Or does it get worse?

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Or does it get worse?

Asking that question is like doing push-ups with your face over an ice pick, while contemplating how long you can avoid stabbing yourself in the eye with it. I am not sure I have ever seen anything that a narcissist can't make somehow worse.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And flunking it!