HomophobiaGC Twitters criticism of Pete & Chasten Buttigiegs Adoption is getting homophobic

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[–]jiljol 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Many of the founding figures of radical feminism made their position quite clear in their writings: male homosexuality is a form of extreme hatred of women. Gynephilic men may be out there brutally torturing, raping and murdering women, but it is in gay men that one can apparrently find the most profound form of misogyny.

“The Christian tradition — based on male anxiety from the Hebrew tradition — takes the fear of the female to even greater extremes. During the Middle Ages celibacy (which is related to rear of the female) produced such strong anxieties that both self-castration and sodomy existed.”

- Leslie B. Tanner

“Men's liberationists always bring up ‘confronting their own feelings about men’ by which they mean homosexuality. Male homosexuality is an extension of the reactionary club (meaning both group and weapon). The growth of gay liberation carries contempt for women to the ultimate: total segregation. The desire of men to ‘explore their homosexuality’ really means encouraging the possibility of homosexuality as a reaction against feminist demands. This is the reason the movement for “gay rights” received much more support only after women's liberation became a mass movement.”

- Carol Hanisch

Interesting to note is that this cartoony characterization of gay men as these woman-hating monsters is shared by people from across the political spectrum: far-right groups will call us mentally-ill degenerates who should be "fixed" of our "aversion", woke leftists will call us transphobic bigots who should be "fixed" of our "aversion", second-wave feminists will call us misogynists who should be "fixed" of our "aversion", etc. The nicest of radfems will tell you that sure, homophobia exists, but it is merely an unintended consequence of women's oppression - a simple footnote. Who can forget that time radfem Meghan Murphy from Feminist Current descended from her ivory tower just days after Ireland legalized same-sex marriage to inform us mortals that no, she is not going to "celebrate" this event and that people should instead be fighting for women's rights (ignoring the effect this law has on lesbian women) and ultimately the total abolition of marriage. How about that time failed-actress-turned-activist libfem Rose McGowan claimed that not only are gay men misogynistic, we are in fact MORE misogynistic than men of other sexual orientations.

My advice is to judge a person's character based on who they are as individuals and not on their group affiliation.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Men's liberationists always bring up ‘confronting their own feelings about men’ by which they mean homosexuality. Male homosexuality is an extension of the reactionary club (meaning both group and weapon). The growth of gay liberation carries contempt for women to the ultimate: total segregation."

Wowwww. Radical feminists really find the existence of male homosexuality that threatening? This makes me so angry, it's such a pseudoscientific stance. Just like this blatantly science-denying, bigoted article posted by "Lesbian and Gay News" featuring another radical feminist, Julie Bindel.

Interesting to note is that this cartoony characterization of gay men as these woman-hating monsters is shared by people from across the political spectrum: far-right groups will call us mentally-ill degenerates who should be "fixed" of our "aversion", woke leftists will call us transphobic bigots who should be "fixed" of our "aversion", second-wave feminists will call us misogynists who should be "fixed" of our "aversion", etc. The nicest of radfems will tell you that sure, homophobia exists, but it is merely an unintended consequence of women's oppression - a simple footnote.

Yep, radfems' framing of the issue of homophobia is always in reference to their ideology, and the primacy of their own beliefs.

Who can forget that time radfem Meghan Murphy from Feminist Current descended from her ivory tower just days after Ireland legalized same-sex marriage to inform us mortals that no, she is not going to "celebrate" this event and that people should instead be fighting for women's rights (ignoring the effect this law has on lesbian women)

I'm a little young, so I have never heard of this event, but that's fascinating. Do you have a link to an article? I tried Googling it but no luck. Also, radfems don't actually give a shit about homosexual women (lesbian women); when they say "lesbian," they really just mean political lesbians, which is their homosexuality-erasing concept in which straight women can "choose" to be lesbian.

My advice is to judge a person's character based on who they are as individuals and not on their group affiliation.

Couldn't agree more.

Thanks for your thoughtful breakdown. As I mentioned in my own comment, I have felt uneasy for a while about radical feminism's homophobia, and in the past I have seen some users on this sub downplay it. I feel better knowing that other people here are also keeping an eye out for it.

[–]jiljol 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The "think" piece is still up, but here is an archive page: https://archive.is/mbPPa

Enjoy (not!).

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing. Ugh.

It is women — 51 per cent of the world’s population — who remain the largest group of oppressed humans on this planet

"Me! Me, it's all about me!" Women are oppressed, yes, but why the hell can't other minority groups-- be it sexual orientation minorities, racial minorities, or whoever-- take a moment to celebrate their victories? Literally right after gay marriage was legalized. This take is just plain narcissistic... at best, it is blind and thoughtless.