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[–]RaspberryTea 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No straight man would ever identify as bi.

Just because a thing is rare doesn't mean it never happens. I've had a couple of definitely-straight guys tell me they were bisexual basically because they found anime boys attractive. Sure, they might have said it to impress(?) me in particular, but it's proof that it CAN happen. And considering how everyone wants in the club these days....

But I agree it probably isn't the current route of choice since Trans grabs more attention. And depending on how you go about it, it doesn't even take any effort. From what I've seen, straight guys who really want to be ~QUEER~ mostly seem to call themselves nonbinary or decide they're women and start calling themselves lesbians. Which is partly why this forum exists.

lesbians barely experience actual, real homophobia

Is that really a can of worms you want to open up? I won't dwell on this, but I will say that just because lesbians experience a different form of homophobia doesn't mean it isn't "real" or that it doesn't have consequences. Sometimes horrific ones, including corrective rape.

As for the rest, well.... You do you.

[–]schomee 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I dont think you understand how intense homophobia is and how it works in the gay world, where it's meant to be used for and homophobia towards lesbians is more like ricocheting bullets. No bisexual is trying to identify as gay. It's almost like saying a bunch of non pedophiles are trying to appropriate the stigma of pedophilia. It's an extreme example but you understand that the stigma is the barrier. If someone says theyre a pedophile, you believe them. Just like we dont doubt when someone admits they're a rapist. The stigma is the certification. The homophobia is extreme on the male end. They might tell you because you're bi but you're in a cosmopolitan city. Plenty of "straight" men tell me theyre bi all the time but theyre not lining up to claim the word gay from gay people. That's only women who do that because it's "fun" on their end as a costume to put on that they can take off.

What's that saying straight men have? "you can fuck 10,000 women but if you kiss one guy when you were 15, then you'll be gay forever". Lesbians and women dont have a true understanding of homophobia because it's not really meant for them. You have lesbians and bisexual women at war with one another over gatekeeping the word lesbian. The word "gay" is walled off and protected by a giant powerful barrier of stigma that keeps it "clean".

[–]RaspberryTea 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

...Since I feel like I just wandered into the "Woman yelling at cat" meme, imma bow out now

[–]schomee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you're attempting to blame everything on "fake bi's". I explained to you that unlike in the lesbian world, in the gay world, there arent bi men clamoring to appropriate the word bi or gay. There's too much of a stigma. That was to counter your "all these fake bi people" deflection. I went into very thorough detail to explain this to you. You understood it very well. Almost all bi men are deeply closeted.