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[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

She was absolutely right. It was beautiful watching that idiot's smirk fall the more she dug her heels in. It also warms my heart to see conservative people acknowledging (and supporting) LGB while separating the T. Her instagram has a lot of trump + religious posts, but she still made a point to say "What sexual orientation? I see a DICK" and "There's no such thing as transgender" and "Okay but you might not like women." No bigotry, no homophobia, no calling that crusty dumbass any names, just facts. So refreshing.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't think she has a point about gay men seeing a naked woman. Yes, they wouldn't like it, but it makes the implication that only lesbians wouldn't welcome a penis bearer in a same sex spa dressing room. Most women don't appreciate penis bearers in their same sex spaces. It's not the best argument, imo.

[–]Midcentury 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am not afraid of women raping me, so I wasn't not surprised when woke dude didn't care. It also shows that he has no idea on the how or the why as to the different position women are in when it comes to sexual assault. Lot of empathy for his fellow males, not terribly much for women.

[–]supersmokio6420 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But he's already made the implication that straight women would welcome it by saying straight men would welcome it. She's saying that just to try to get him to imagine a situation he wouldn't be comfortable with, getting him to understand that other people don't feel the same way he does. Its women he can't empathise with so she can't say "imagine you were a woman", so she gives the closest analogy where he can still imagine himself as man.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Its women he can't empathise with so she can't say "imagine you were a woman", so she gives the closest analogy where he can still imagine himself as man.

The best way for him to understand womens rights is by being called gay then? So gay men are the closest thing to being both a woman and a man? WTF?

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She didn't 'call' him gay. She presented a hypothetical situation to get him out of his singular perspective.

She literally said 'well you might not like women' only as a response to his apathy about what happened. In what world is that the same as calling him gay?

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

makes the implication that only lesbians wouldn't welcome a penis bearer in a same sex spa dressing room.

That doesn't really hold up here because this exact situation is about this presumably straight woman, and a bunch of other presumably straight women not wanting to see a man in a women only space.

We aren't inside her head so we can only make assumptions but her Instagram is very right wing and religious. She likely understands that a man in a women's space is dangerous. She likely realizes that women don't typically enjoy seeing random naked men at the spa in the women's section, regardless of sexuality. She also likely understands how many straight men wouldn't mind seeing a naked woman at the spa (I'm reminded of straight men who say they would love to be hit on and catcalled whenever women describe how uncomfortable it makes us). So she probably realizes that turning a mirror to what she experienced wouldn't make that guy understand. The best analogy would be to say 'well you might not like women.'

That doesn't imply that only homosexuals would bristle at a situation like this. It's acknowledging the differences between male and female socialization, and working around the reality that many men like him don't understand why single sex spaces need protecting.