Penis News says JK Rowling and anti-trans rhetoric have caused ‘significant damage’ to the UK

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[–]cutenoobies 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Whenever someone wants discussion about the motives of the movement, they shout "NO DEBATE!", that's because they know their arguments wouldn't stand in actual fact based discussion.

[–]julesburm1891 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I mean, did you see the White House press conference where a journalist asked Psaki what guidelines the president has in place for schools handling complaints and lawsuits in regards to trans girls competing against girls in sports? Psaki pretended she didn’t understand the very plain question, the journalist repeated it, and Psaki answer was literally just, “Trans rights are human rights.” They can’t answer basic, pertinent questions from people who are on their side let alone have conversations about peoples’ hesitancies and concerns.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly! Their entire base of support is predicated on ignorance of the issues, or activists and policymakers pretending to be ignorant. I have never seen this in other activist movements. That's why I'm like 90% sure transactivism will fail. No movement totally predicated on either malice or ignorance can hold up forever.

Other examples of this are people saying "this never happens!" to cotton ceiling bullshit, or transwomen raping women in prisons or shelters, or transwomen being sex pests, or gaydens harassing gay men and being ridiculously homophobic. "This never happens" meaning they are pretending they don't see it, so they don't have to take responsibility.

But a politician replying to a straightforward, specific question about trans policy with feigned ignorance, and then a slogan/platitude is the deathwatch beetle of the trans movement.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

“Trans rights are human rights.”

Since when does dictating everyone else's perception of you and demanding that they pretend to share your ideology, appropriating vulnerable groups' identity, and requiring that people be attracted to you, qualify as "human rights"?

Sounds more like trans regard it as their "human right" to deprive the rest of us (especially LGB people and women) of OUR human rights.

[–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Trans rights are human rights” seems to be the response to anyone saying, “Hey, wait a minute. What you’re asking for tramples on someone else’s rights.”

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So this is a bit off topic, but does anyone else find this new "Trans Rights Are Human Rights" slogan of theirs kind of off putting and creepy? Like at least the "Trans Women Are Women" slogan actually means something, even if it doesn't really make sense logically when you think about it. But "Trans Rights Are Human Rights" doesn't even mean anything. Like wow, they're human rights? Gee, that's such a relief, I thought they were panda rights or fucking microbe rights or something. What the hell does that even mean?

TRAHR is a phrase that literally means nothing and yet people are spewing it out like it's a fact as clear and self-evident as "the sky is blue". It creeps me out.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Trans people (in America and other western countries) already have human rights. When you ask them what rights they don't have, they get angry and start screeching. Just asking that question gets you labeled a transphobe, and they won't give an answer.

It reminds me of the social experiment where someone walked around a college campus getting people to sign a petition to get dihydrogen monoxide banned. They got plenty of signatures. dihydrogen monoxide is another way of saying H20 - water. People are gullible and their heads are so far up their asses that most of them don't realize they are being manipulated. You imply that trans people don't have human rights, and they go "OMG! That's awful!" without sitting back to think for two seconds, "what human rights do you all not have? I know you're too stupid to figure out where to piss without making everyone around you miserable, but what else? what other rights are you missing out on? And by the way, getting to piss in the same room as the sex you wish you were is not a human right."

Meanwhile there are billions of women, children, and yes, even men around the world who really don't have human rights. Like literally people who are sold into slavery, married off as child brides, female genital mutilation (and I'll throw male circumcision in there too. A human should be allowed to chose this for himself. that should be a human right) etc etc.. But we're too busy catering to these drama queens and their delusion that they are entitled to access to any woman they want at any time they please and that is their "human right."

[–]julesburm1891 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Legit had this argument with a friend irl a few weeks ago. In America, what legal rights don’t trans people have? Every thing they’re complaining about now is wanting privileges that step on others’ rights and autonomy.