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[–]winterwillow 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Finally, “dyke” entered the mainstream as the first national Dyke March took place in Washington, D.C. in 1993. Held without a permit, it was organized by the Lesbian Avengers, a trans-inclusive group of radical women who loved women. They took part in direct actions around the country for decades. Many of the members did not identify as lesbians but instead as transgender, bisexual, or pansexual among other identities.

I did some looking into this Lesbian Avengers group out of curiosity. There's nothing on their website or original handbook or manifest from 1994 to suggest they were 'trans-inclusive' as is demanded today. To have one or two transexuals join and politely use the right pronouns and let them tag along, wouldn't cut it today where you're supposed to center trans people and deny biology to make them feel 'safe'. Or that these women would call themselves anything but lesbians, though some might have been bi or straight even. They don't even mention bisexuality, to think they'd call themselves pan is pure fiction.

I did find this article from 2008 (https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/395/gender-vertigo) on what it was like in the Lesbian Avengers in San Francisco in late 90's early 00's. The author would probably be called a terf today lol. I think it describes pretty well what happened to these groups, they started as a way of having a community away from gay men, was very inclusive and encouraging of women calling themselves lesbians, 'We recruit!' was a tagline. Then when lgb people got more accepted and gender ideology gained more traction, lesbians in the group came out as trans men and trans women were included.

And of course as the Lesbian Avengers kept people who didn't see themselves as lesbians and let in people who weren't lesbians, the group was abandoned by the women who were. There's a passage in the article where one of the newly included trans women shows off the pierced nipples of his estrogen boobs, and I feel nauseous just thinking about how much 'gender euphoria' this (probably) agp male got out if doing that to lesbians like he was one of them.

It's funny in a way, because these 'trans dykes' of course know very well that they need cis lesbians no matter how much they talk shit about us and try to forcefully educate us on our own history so we'll be more inclusive. A room with twenty of these guys does not a lesbian community make, to themselves or lesbians or any onlooker, then they can call themselves dykes how much they want.

Sorry for hijacking your post, just thought the actual history was interesting.