William Shatner, the newest hated enemy of the LGBTIQQAA Scrabbleboaders.

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[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Look, I've wanted more gay, lesbian, and (especially) bisexual characters for a long time... but I also want them to be CREATED as such, so that this is a basic, fully-integrated part of who they are. They should be LGB people in their own right, not just a straight character with the serial number filed off. I mean, how insulting is THAT? We're not enough in ourselves, we can only be represented through heterosexuals? With that as cover, or something? Fuck outta here.

Sure, do the Lando Calrissian/Ellen Ripley thing, too (where you make the role LGB just cuz why not?), but please: give us our OWN characters! Not just hand-me-down ones! Like Captain Kirk! Leave him (and William Shatner) alone; let them be themselves... and let us be ourselves. FINALLY.

[–]insta 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Have you watched netflix originals lately? "The Haunting" has such a forced lesbian relationship it's so fucking awkward.

I'm resenting so much "representation" because it's really starting to just feel like box checking more than anything. As I watch these shows I can just see them being shackled by their creators own ideology.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I haven't, but can well imagine... because even when our invisibility ends, the cluelessness about us all too often remains! Unfortunately.

Yeah, even though bisexual representation being roughly zero weighs quite heavily on me, I can't help but wonder if it's something of a blessing in certain ways; at least we don't often have to deal with such awkward, painfully-obligatory, or otherwise cringetastic portrayals.

Do you know who (writer/creator) was behind this plot line on "The Haunting"? I'm guessing that they aren't lesbian themselves; maybe what's needed is for more of us to tell our own stories, rather than always having to entrust them to other people.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't really buy into the "you have to be lesbian to write a story about lesbians". I think these people are just untalented and more importantly corrupted by ideology. Netflix obviously has this diversity quota (or at the minimum a huge bias) which must be met which is just spitting in the face of artists.

I didn't like Game of Thrones because it had strong & powerful female leads and POC. I liked it because it was a compelling story.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't really buy into the "you have to be lesbian to write a story about lesbians".

Oh, I don't, either-- in fact the "how DARE anyone write about a group unless they belong to it!!!" thing annoys me no end. (I'm a writer myself; what, I'm only supposed to write about WRITERS now? Who are Irish/German bi American women with glasses? Yeah-- THAT sounds oh so interesting! Talk about diversity...)

Rather, I meant that, in addition to other people depicting us, we ALSO need to depict ourselves, you know? Characters shouldn't ONLY be written "from the inside"-- we need to be free to portray straight ones, too, after all!-- but by the same token, they shouldn't only be written from the "outside", either.

And honestly? I suspect that, in many cases, you're less apt to play it safe with your "own". Excesses of political correctness can stem from feeling deferential and even guilty... "who am I to show this marginalized group in a negative light? Better make 'em beyond criticism-- a sexual-orientation Mary Sue!" Whereas we don't have to "prove" our credentials, or that we "get it". And therefore may be able to concentrate more on creating actual LGB characters than PR images. (The latter, however well-meant, invariably bore the shit outta me; give me complex, intriguingly-flawed PERSONALITIES over role-models any day!)