Transing ChildrenNew study: Puberty blockers lead to stunted height, impaired bone density (but give them to gay kids anyway!)

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[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I feel sorry for this generation of gnc adolescents. So many fools telling them that they were born wrong and need to be fixed or long-term medicated to suppress their socially 'unwanted' side. As if this stage in life can be confusing and depressing enough with all the natural changes that occur. And then you have intelligent people who should know better going along with the charade due to the peer pressure and 'Emperor's New Clothes' collective denial effect. Disappointing and dangerous situation all around.

[–]hetisachoice 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

There needs to be massive criminal punishment for this on a scale the world has never seen before, one that would make the Nuremberg Trials look like a traffic court hearing.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

That is very extreme! Also wtf is up with your username, "hetisachoice"? I hope that's a joke

[–]mvmlego 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Don't expect a sane answer from him regarding his username, or pretty much anything else for that matter.

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/79hi/boys_twice_as_likely_as_girls_to_be_bullied_about/rgw4

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/77io/biden_picks_dr_rachel_levine_transgender_woman_as/rb9c?context=3

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Dayuuum...that is an interesting read.

Unrelated q: what exactly do we do w/ karma? Can we buy things w/ it?

[–]mvmlego 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

On Saidit, I'm pretty sure that the Karma system has no inherent uses. It's an indicator of seniority and popularity, and it provides a cheap psychological incentive for users to participate in productive ways. Those are still pretty insignificant teleologies, though, so I think the primary reason that the system was implemented on Saidit was to make the website feel as similar to Reddit as possible.

On Reddit, it used to serve a more concrete purpose. Certain actions were restricted to users above a certain Karma threshold--and the potential to be restricted was actually pretty significant, since there's a downvote option that allows users to take a net loss on Karma from bad posts and comments (or ones that were perceived as bad, anyhow). (Sorry if this paragraph felt patronizing. IDK whether you were a Reddit user before joining Saidit.)

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the information, and don't worry it didn't read patronizing at all. I was on Reddit for a short time, 2 years ago and didn't know wtf karma was or what it did back then either, LOL.

[–]hetisachoice 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Letting this go unpunished would be a massive miscarriage of justice. I cannot forgive the harm done to my own people by people I thought were allies.

"hetisachoice"? I hope that's a joke

Let me put it this way: heterosexuals are the ones constantly flaunting their lifestyle while accusing gays of doing the same by merely mentioning a same-sex date or spouse. They are literally trying to force people to be heterosexual and using violent acts such as rape and even murder to achieve that end. Heterosexuals are the ones insisting on inserting themselves into everything. And after years of taking everything from our jobs to our lovers to our lives, heterosexuals are even trying to steal homosexuality itself from us. Everything they accuse us gays of is something of which they are guilty and not us. They will grasp at any straw to justify being "anything but gay."

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Letting this go unpunished would be a massive miscarriage of justice. I cannot forgive the harm done to my own people by people I thought were allies.

I'm with you on that. Justice needs to be done for the kids and teens who will grow up and realize they were lied to, manipulated, and harmed by transactivism, and the places like the Tavistock, which seem to be completely ideologically captured.

I think saying it will be bigger than Nuremburg Trials is blowing it out of proportion. The latter punished people who planned and orchestrated genocide on a mass scale, that killed 9 million people, 6 million of whom were Jews, and 3 million were homosexuals, Gypsies, Slavic peoples, and disabled people. Saying it will be "bigger than Nuremburg" is frankly ridiculous, and makes us look like extremists.

Here is how I think it will actually happen: From Keira Bell's case, to 10 or 20, 30 years down the line, there will be adults speaking out and demanding justice for having been transed in their childhood, and reporting the health ramifications of childhood transition. Some will be motivated by these health problems, realizing the doctors didn't know the outcomes years down the line. Others will be motivated by realizing they weren't trans, but gnc homosexuals and bisexuals, and being able to critically analyze how they were treated at places like Tavistock when they were young. Others will be motivated by reproductive health problems that no one told them about. Hindsight is always 20/20. Over the next 30 years there will likely be a series of class-action lawsuits, support systems set up for detransitioners, and activism on that front.

That's what I'm personally projecting: a series of separate class action suits, which form a movement of people to reverse and bring to light the damage being done currently.

Ps. I understand better your reasons for "hetisachoice". Sorry for grilling you on it. I thought you were a radfem into political lesbianism. B/c I'm a radfem totally against that concept, and have gotten some shit for that from other radfems.

[–]hetisachoice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

30 years? We need it right now. We cannot wait and leave another generation of LGB youth at their mercy. And they need to be capital crimes. There is no punishment too severe for crimes against homosexuality of this magnitude.

Saying it will be "bigger than Nuremburg" is frankly ridiculous, and makes us look like extremists.

I am offended by being called an "extremist." Is this "extremism" when the end game is a world where homosexuality is illegal nowhere. We need to send the message that GAY LIVES MATTER and that gay lives matter enough to use capital punishment against those who threaten us. The left wants hate speech laws, the right wants the death penalty, I say give them both what they asked for.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"I'm offended that you're offended that she's offended". Frankly my dear I don't give a damn if you're offended. Comparing it to Nuremburg and calling for capital punishment, or vigilante justice, or whatever you're demanding right now, is extremist by anyone's definition.

Please re-read what I wrote. I didn't say we have to wait thirty years: I said it's happening now, like the Keira Bell case, and the legal cases and social awareness of the issue is going to keep growing within the next thirty years. Maybe longer. Even if child transition is banned today, many of the health problems are still not going to be known for possibly decades. That is horrible to hear, but it's not something we can control. I pray that none of those people have health problems at all!

The people causing the damage are being brought to justice through the legal avenue, and they are going to spend a long time in jail. I hope they are in jail for life, b/c I don't believe in the death penalty.

[–]hetisachoice 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Extremist" is just a buzzword used to dismiss and discredit ideas that shallow thinkers and bootlickers of the oligarchy refuse to take any effort to try and understand.

All crimes against homosexuality are capital crimes, especially crimes of this magnitude. I believed this when Matthew Shepard was murdered for being gay, and I am even more adamant now that his murderers should have been executed at the moment of sentencing. No one has ever made a convincing case why the lives of anti-gay hate criminals matter. They don't. That's one reason why "-ll l-v-s m-tt-r" is not just racist but sexist, homophobic, and antisemitic as well. Do the lives of racists matter? Do the lives of sexists matter? Do the lives of antisemites matter? If you answered yes to any of those questions, then you are those things, too.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hmm, I like your style.

[–]hetisachoice 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. It's nice to get something other than the blame for reacting to people being prejudiced against me for a change. Even so, we can't let crimes against LGB people on this scale over such a long period of time go unpunished.