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[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Iridescent it's not just the threat of male violence for lesbians. It's the fact that MtF "lesbians" literally outnumber actual, female lesbians b/c there are more straight men with fetishes than lesbians (go figure). On fb 4 of my guy friends in the last 3 years came out as trans and "lesbians". Out of 200 friends. This doesn't seem like much, but for comparison I only know one other lesbian on there, and 1 bisexual woman.

In my irl lgbtq+ society years ago there were way more trans people (women and men) and no lesbians. There was a small handful of "queer" women and nonbinary/agender females (including me) none of whom called themselves lesbians at the time.

Keep in mind this outnumbering when you hear about MTFs shutting down lesbian events, bars, etc. It is not a small number, and we can't just avoid them.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To clarify: I see FtM's as mostly sad (though obnoxious). However, I see MtF's as potentially dangerous.

Yeah, maybe I'm a bit sexist in seeing biological men as inherently much more dangerous than biological women.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think you are sexist, just realistic. Men are usually stronger, larger, and more powerful than women. So dudes with transgender fetish for lesbians is more of a physical threat that FtMs for gay men.

I don't feel bad for them anymore. I used to, but after so many years of giving my friendship, time, energy, and activism, and it being taken for granted, I ran out of tears. I have zero sympathy for them or their malafide movement now.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't feel bad for them anymore. I used to, but after so many years of giving my friendship, time, energy, and activism, and it being taken for granted, I ran out of tears. I have zero sympathy for them or their malafide movement now.

There's a difference between compassion and giving undeserved resources. I think there's a lesson in some of this, one about boundaries. I can have compassion for somebody while still refusing to give them any undeserved emotional energy to continue on their destructive (both to self and other) behavior. I can see them as victims of a larger sinister process while still holding them accountable for feeding that process. That's really all I'm saying.

Honestly, I think these people should be shunned. But when some of them decide to de-transition (as some of them inevitably will) they should be treated with the compassion and empathy they will deserve at that point.