Why I think men (gay & heterosexual) avoid the important task of standing with women against TRAs

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[–]pacmanla[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sorry if men are going to those forums to do that. I'm not "compliment hunting", but just want to add that I agree that this nonsense needs to stop. I don't know about women congratulating the man, but could it be that most men (particularly heterosexual) don't know about this issue & the women are just grateful that their realizing this matter? Don't know, just asking. Thanks for the feedback.

[–]eddyelric 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the reason why women are very skeptical of men being in their spaces because they can't be honest about their issues. You have to start walking on eggshells to be nice and never make generalizations and I see that as they type of censorship attitude that paved the way for TRAs to walk right in.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True. Sometimes you're just frustrated. Take that guy from Amnesty Ireland. Some might say, "man, why are men such assholes (to us)?" and then you'd have to add, "but of course, I don't mean all men. Actually, I'm sorry that this might be offensive to the men reading this so please know I don't mean you blabla" and then just end up wasting everyone's time.

[–]SeahorseLTHarold, they're lesbians! 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, but they point is that you shouldn't be grateful all the time just because someone is acting according to their integrity, ideals and logic. A sense of relief like, "oh, at least this man is supporting us! Wow!" is actually just another symptom of it all.

I'm grateful especially to those people that are putting their face, name and often career out there to help shine a light on this. So yeah, I might not agree with all of them, but I am grateful that a JKR, a Abigail Shrier, a Gad Saad or a Graham Lineha, is speaking up. Because they have been dealing with the consequences of their actions in a way that would make most of us back off. But discussion in a forum, where a man say, "I think this is going too far, too" - well, good for you, buddy, and welcome aboard, but it's nothing to write home about, you know?

[–]pacmanla[S] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree, & it's not about me as a man thinking it's something to write home about when a man do support the cause against this issue. I was just giving my opinion & answering certain posts about why more men don't support the fight against TRAs against women. I've seen posts asking about this on here & other sites about this issue. Again, thanks for the insight.