ACB: "Sexual Preference"; TRA: "Genital Preference"

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Pedantic. "Preference" isn't accurate but "orientation" isn't that different. In my opinion, both are inaccurate and the choice of words really doesn't matter. The CONCEPT matters. Masking it with terms just leads to misconceptions and distortion of reality.

Like how gay rights slogans use "Love is love" when really, most gay men are primarily interested in hookups, and many don't care for "love" at all.

This isn't a TRA or "queer" problem, this has been an issue since the "gay community" became a thing and it's not going to go away if we shift the blame to other people. "LGB" people have to answer for this as much as TRAs do. Both are guilty of false wording and terms that are deliberately making things seem different to what they are.

Saying that the word "orientation" grants you human rights is also hyperbole and "sexual preference" isn't "homophobic." Just as it isn't homophobic to call me "bisexual." It's just incorrect. Incorrect does not mean offensive, this is what's wrong with modern "progressives" and politics. A wrong fact can just be a wrong fact, it doesn't need to be an ultra-offensive personal attack on your very human rights and existence.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Reptillian have you read books like 1984? The words people use are extremely important, because the basis of propaganda is language. I think you have a very biased and dark view of homosexuality, saying most don't care about "love". I don't know where you get this idea, but it's plain wrong.

[–]TheBeefBenson 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not really agreeing with the rest of everything Reptilian said there, which seemed to be an unhelpful tangent, but your comparisons of ACB's slip up to authoritarian control of language is just silly. It's authoritarian propaganda when it's used as an intentional effort to subvert reality. Not just a harmless mistake by one person who doesn't seem to know all that much.

And quite frankly, who would you rather have in a position of such authority at the moment. Someone who keeps their nose out of LGBT affairs, or someone who's really "down" with being an ally... because I know which is going to be more likely to support the TRAs and whose not. Give you a clue, it isn't the first one.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Beef I wasn't talking about specifically ACB's slip-up, more about possible consequences, years down the line if phrases like "sexual preference" and "genital preference" is accepted in mainstream language and politics. I think that combined with acceptance of TRA it could lead to a backpeddling of our rights. That was my point.