LGB NewsNew Zealand Government sneakily using campaign to ban gay conversion to also ban people from not affirming TQ+ identity.

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[–]BEB 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's the same trick they pulled in the US.

Now US Congressman Ted Lieu, (D-CA) has a gender identity conversion ban snuck into the same type of law, so you can't pass the bill banning gay conversion without banning gender identity conversion.

Meaning that a lot of gay kids are going to be transitioned because their parents, counselors, etc., won't be able to stop them under this ban.

So in effect, the gender identity conversion ban nullifies the gay conversion ban because the first one is converting gay kids into trans kids.

Trans, Inc. is nothing if not sneaky...

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the bill banning gay conversion without banning gender identity conversion.

How they can co-exist? One is overrides the other one. They conflict with each other.

Gay boys are often dysphoric in childhood. Gay teens and men are non-conforming. By that bill they should transition and no one can stop them. Refusing to transition gay kid is "gender conversion therapy" and at the same time not refusing to transition gay kid is gay conversion therapy. So this bill will make any interractions with gay boys illegal basically.

Sadly, but we all know that they will say that "transing gay boy into a girl for them to become straight is not gay conversion therapy".

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a crazy bill. I have attempted to explain to Ted Lieu's office that the gender identity conversion ban directly conflicts with the gay conversion ban, but Lieu, who loves to portray himself as the intelligent conscience of the US House, either doesn't understand the conflict (but we all can, so why not Standford/Georgetown educated, former JAG lawyer, Lieu?).

So I'm guessing Ted Lieu does understand that his gender identity conversion ban bill fucks over gays, he 's just receiving money from Trans, Inc. and Big Pharma- I do not know because I have not checked Lieu's campaign finances.

I'm just glad that Ted Lieu wasn't born in the US, because a man who would so cravenly sell out women, gays and children doesn't belong anywhere near the presidency.

[–]our_team_is_winning 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ted Lieu, (D-CA) has a gender identity conversion ban snuck into the same type of law, so you can't pass the bill banning gay conversion without banning gender identity conversion.

Line Item Veto. And Congressional Term Limits. Please! "gender identity conversion ban" -- telling kids in the first place that "you might be trans" is conversion!!! Conversion to the Cult of Woke

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ted Lieu pretends to be an uber-liberal, but given that even when he was in the California state legislature he was passing Trans, Inc. bills, I think that Lieu must be a creature of Big Pharma.

[–]artetolife 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same story in Canada from what I've heard. "Gender identity" is NOT the same thing as sexual orientation and the people trying to push these laws know it.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If this law gets passed, then instead of homophobic parents sending their gay children to camps where they will be beaten, starved, electrocuted and traumatised (and possibly sexually abused as well), homophobic parents will put their gay children on puberty blockers, on cross sex hormones and through irreversible surgeries. Procedures that cannot be reversed. This is worse than sending kids to conversion therapy camps. But the people who claim to advocate for us have sold us down the river in favour of woke capitalism, and so gay, lesbian and bisexual youths have been held for ransom.

If you have homophobic parents, it doesn’t matter if you live in Russia or Canada, because you are fucked if you are gay and they find out about it. In Canada you will have more opportunities if you’re gay and an adult than you would have in even the most gay friendly part of Russia. But when you’re 14 years old and realise that you mind be gay, you still have four more years to go before you can legally say no to your parents. That’s still enough time for your parents to make irreversible decisions about your body irrespective of your best wishes.

Furthermore, even if your parents are supportive of you being gay, a teacher can still brainwash you into thinking you are trans and your parents can do nothing about it if you’re in Canada, while in Russia, your parents can refuse to let the institutions turn you into the opposite sex, but you will be expected to live in a don’t ask don’t tell regime unless you live in a remote area or one of the few places that are gay friendly. Different types of oppression, but still oppression nonetheless.

[–]justasking918273Ally 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The same thing happened in Germany, too. By now, (actually legitimate) LGB issues are only a trojan horse to get trans bullshit accepted.