What does Rod Fleming (he's a trans rights activist) mean by this comment?

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[–]nosympathy 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lol I literally just yesterday fell into the Rod Fleming rabbit hole, so unfortunately I now understand this. Basically he believes that only feminine, skinny/petite, baby-faced gays are "true homosexuals" and that bisexual and masculine gay men (the "New Gay Male" or NGM) are a product of a social inversion that started in the 60's, which has been forcing masculinity into gayhood (yeah).

For him, "true homosexuals" have "feminine sexuality" and want to fuck straight men, just like women do. Of course Rod only believes that because he's GAMP (attracted to trans women (btw, he doesn't believe that AGP are actually trans)), so in his wettest dreams, all these "true homosexuals" should transition into women so he can have an infinite supply of ladyboys to fuck. His enemies are the "New Gay Male", who like gay men as men, and not as a potential women, so they don't encourage them to transition.

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you for your explanation! So Rod Fleming is suggesting that "gay men are persuading young potential trans identified males to be happily gay instead of exploring their glorious transhood", I am very disgusted hearing this. I believe Fleming and his views (wanting gay men to think they are women on the inside and be trans identified males instead of accepting themselves as men who like men) are extremely homophobic. What do you think?

[–]nosympathy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Although Rod seems like a very bitter old man, I can kind of see how his view can be coming from a place of empathy (down at the bottom of all the layers of his sexual perversion of course). It is well known that the "true homosexuals" (aka gnc gay people) can really struggle, often from a very young age, with gender roles, socializing, dating, and dysphoria. I can see how he thinks transitioning can be a way to improve their quality of life, as undeniably some trans women and trans men do actually feel better off this way.

What I think it's interesting is that he himself has noticed that the rates of transition can very from culture to culture. He has observed that, in Asia, the transition rates of gay men are much larger, probably because of less acceptance of gay people ("ladyboy" is a term often used to describe asian trans women, the primary targets of his fetish I guess?). So yeah, I think entertaining the idea that gay men should transition to women instead of learning to accept themselves as gay is based on homophobia.

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

His beliefs could very well be based on "empathy" but this is why I believe empathy is being weaponized and is a dangerous tool in the hands of the people that believe in the transgender beliefs. These homophobes say "I am just trying to help you! If you say you're gay, and if you say you are a man who likes men, they will discriminate against you! They will make you go through a ton of pain! So, how about you learn and start believing you're a woman on the inside?". Just as a racist could tell black people in racist environments "I am just helping you and being empathetic! By turning your dark skin into a lighter color using creams, etc, you will get less discriminated against by racist people!".

The question is, is it okay to change people like this if it means the likelihood of them being discriminated against goes down after the change? Is it okay to tell gay boys and gay men they are women on the inside that's why they like men and that they should get hormones and surgeries and declare they are trans women?