What does Rod Fleming (he's a trans rights activist) mean by this comment?

submitted by EverydayIsSad from (self.LGBDropTheT)

Rod Fleming's videos have started showing up in my recommended for some reason, he's a trans rights activist, and most of his videos on his channel are about trans men, trans women and ladyboys which I'm guessing are trans women? I'm not sure so if anyone is sure of what it means please let me know. I got curious and clicked on one video in particular, and scrolled down to the comments section until I reached this comment written by a trans woman who has "transitioned socially (pre-HRT)" because when they were younger they were treated badly for being a "feminine boy" and now they believe they no longer are a boy/man and are a girl/woman.

In a response to this trans woman, Rod Fleming said; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtR7H3x5DxM&lc=UgztyOKB1JRfV6O4ijt4AaABAg.9B4PmfP-ew79B4SmX2a1Hd

I very much agree, The whole 'gay is better' claptrap is just a way of supplying the NGM meat market and it needs to stop. Good luck with your transition, I hope your path becomes easier.

What is this even supposed to mean? What do you think of Rod Fleming and his videos?

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[–]nosympathy 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Lol I literally just yesterday fell into the Rod Fleming rabbit hole, so unfortunately I now understand this. Basically he believes that only feminine, skinny/petite, baby-faced gays are "true homosexuals" and that bisexual and masculine gay men (the "New Gay Male" or NGM) are a product of a social inversion that started in the 60's, which has been forcing masculinity into gayhood (yeah).

For him, "true homosexuals" have "feminine sexuality" and want to fuck straight men, just like women do. Of course Rod only believes that because he's GAMP (attracted to trans women (btw, he doesn't believe that AGP are actually trans)), so in his wettest dreams, all these "true homosexuals" should transition into women so he can have an infinite supply of ladyboys to fuck. His enemies are the "New Gay Male", who like gay men as men, and not as a potential women, so they don't encourage them to transition.

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you for your explanation! So Rod Fleming is suggesting that "gay men are persuading young potential trans identified males to be happily gay instead of exploring their glorious transhood", I am very disgusted hearing this. I believe Fleming and his views (wanting gay men to think they are women on the inside and be trans identified males instead of accepting themselves as men who like men) are extremely homophobic. What do you think?

[–]nosympathy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Although Rod seems like a very bitter old man, I can kind of see how his view can be coming from a place of empathy (down at the bottom of all the layers of his sexual perversion of course). It is well known that the "true homosexuals" (aka gnc gay people) can really struggle, often from a very young age, with gender roles, socializing, dating, and dysphoria. I can see how he thinks transitioning can be a way to improve their quality of life, as undeniably some trans women and trans men do actually feel better off this way.

What I think it's interesting is that he himself has noticed that the rates of transition can very from culture to culture. He has observed that, in Asia, the transition rates of gay men are much larger, probably because of less acceptance of gay people ("ladyboy" is a term often used to describe asian trans women, the primary targets of his fetish I guess?). So yeah, I think entertaining the idea that gay men should transition to women instead of learning to accept themselves as gay is based on homophobia.

[–]EverydayIsSad[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

His beliefs could very well be based on "empathy" but this is why I believe empathy is being weaponized and is a dangerous tool in the hands of the people that believe in the transgender beliefs. These homophobes say "I am just trying to help you! If you say you're gay, and if you say you are a man who likes men, they will discriminate against you! They will make you go through a ton of pain! So, how about you learn and start believing you're a woman on the inside?". Just as a racist could tell black people in racist environments "I am just helping you and being empathetic! By turning your dark skin into a lighter color using creams, etc, you will get less discriminated against by racist people!".

The question is, is it okay to change people like this if it means the likelihood of them being discriminated against goes down after the change? Is it okay to tell gay boys and gay men they are women on the inside that's why they like men and that they should get hormones and surgeries and declare they are trans women?

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're reaching hypocrisy levels that shouldn't be possible! Accusing us of trying to expand our meat market in order to do exactly that for himself? disgusting

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    [–]automoderatorHuman-Exclusionary Radical Overlord[M] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Basically he believes that only feminine, skinny/petite, baby-faced gays are "true homosexuals" and that bisexual and masculine gay men (the "New Gay Male" or NGM) are a product of a social inversion that started in the 60's, which has been forcing masculinity into gayhood (yeah).

    So he believes there is too much masculinity in the gay community? Lmao okay buddy.

    Love how we've gone full circle back to enforcing gendered stereotypes too.

    [–]Cicerosolo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I don't think Rod would be considered a tra. He's quite good on much of that stuff and is a great resource on the agp. Many of his points I don't agree with but agreeing with some parts and disagreeing with others is part of being an adult

    [–]EverydayIsSad[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Rod Fleming would be considered a trans rights activists, he believes trans women are women and trans men are men, that's the basic belief that all trans rights activists hold. He defines woman as "a person of feminine gender", he says Adiane4u on Instagram, who's a trans woman and whose photo he posted as well, is a woman because he has a feminine gender; https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugyuj-98r1Ln-r9SJTt4AaABCQ

    Most of his videos are about ladyboys and gender if you check his channel out, in one video in particular he claims gender critics and people who criticize the trans people are "the nastiest people on the planet" and that trans women are "no threat to cis women"; https://youtu.be/OtR7H3x5DxM

    He thinks JK Rowling is "ignorant" for making "extremely transphobic statements"; https://youtu.be/hOHHNw8cuUA

    And he thinks it's better for gay men to think they are women on the inside hence why he said to the gay man who "transitioned socially to a woman" that "the whole 'gay is better' claptrap is just a way of supplying the NGM meat market and it needs to stop. Good luck with your transition, I hope your path becomes easier"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtR7H3x5DxM&lc=UgztyOKB1JRfV6O4ijt4AaABAg.9B4PmfP-ew79B4SmX2a1Hd

    Even if after all these, Fleming is not a "trans rights activist", it means he believes in the things trans rights activists believe in and is a believer of transgender beliefs.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Many of his points I don't agree with but agreeing with some parts and disagreeing with others is part of being an adult

    I don't think it is disrespectful to suggest that someone is a TRA on the basis of beliefs they hold. I have not watched his videos yet though, so I can't speak to whether or not he is.

    It sounds like the post was just asking what Rod meant with his wording.