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[–]szalinskikidproblematic androphile 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The main point where I tend to disagree with radfems when it comes to the gender/trans debate is the question of blame. It sounds like for them, transgenderism is just another expression of patriarchal privilege, first and foremost. This leads to certain conclusions, for example that trans ideology is solely a women's problem. The main topic in most GC debates are trans women, while trans men don't seem to interest them as much. Some even give them a pass as a form of retaliation ("let the men see what it's like"), accepting the consequences this has for the gay community and ignoring the fact that we already do know "what it's like". I often hear excuses saying that trans men are just women who are broken by men or who want to escape their oppressed class, while saying the opposite about trans women. This gives me some "you go girl" vibes. It's this feminist centric spin on every issue that might clash with the Gs and some Bs.

In my opinion (some!) radfems overlook straight female privilege while focussing so much on patriarchy. FTMs might not pose a physical threat to gay men in general, but they have the same political/societal powers as MTFs. They can shut us up, de-platform us, cancel us, insert themselves into our spaces, trivialize homophobia, twist and appropriate our language and pressure young, impressionable gay men into sexual relationships etc.

I'd like to see more feminists question their role in the whole gender ideology mess we're in at the moment instead of going the easy route of man-blaming. I would argue that intersectional feminism and identity politics are to blame, way more than "male privilege" or "the patriarchy". It's just a thought, but I believe it were mostly female activists who invited anti-patriarchal queer theory to the table in the first place. There's a certain level of complicity that needs to be acknowledged in order to not repeat our mistakes. Hell, best new example is Carrie Symonds, Boris Johnson's fiancée, who stopped him from ditching transgender reforms.

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notallradfems lol. Thanks for your thoughtful response. I think in today’s political and social climate people just want to generalize whole groups of people, “all FTMs are just victims of male violence” “all MTFs are fetishists” “all gay men are misogynistic when they say they are repulsed by the female body” and so on. Let me clarify - I don’t believe any of these things. For me it is really as simple that I don’t believe in gender identity, and even if I DID I wouldn’t believe that it should override your sex. That is why things are so bad. Falsified reports and overblown studies to make it seem like if we don’t regard gender identity over all and before all else, this demographic won’t “survive” for lack of a better word. IMO it’s gotten to the point where, we need solidarity across all groups who this is affecting. Parents, radfems, LGB, scientists, doctors... Lastly I just want to touch base on your straight privilege point, while I see where you’re coming from, I personally view all women through the intersectional “axis” so to speak. All female humans are oppressed on the basis of sex, black women suffer in their own unique way due to race, as homosexual women suffer in their own unique way due to their sexuality, and so on. So while straight privilege may be a “thing” it doesn’t exempt heterosexual women from all the very real problems we suffer from on the basis of our sex as well.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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