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[–]Gearbeta 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It gets even worse than that. TRAs are saying now that BLACK WOMEN suffer transphobia because of racists saying we "look like men" and thus we should help uplift them basically because we look like dudes anyway.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

WTF!! What the actual fuck! But black women are only perceived as more masculine because of a bunch of sexist stereotypes.. WTF!!! I am so sorry your community is going through that. That's complete bullshit.

Thanks so much for sharing. Do you know of any articles or anything I could read to learn more about this? I am going to look for it anyways though, so no worries if you don't know of anything.

[–]Gearbeta 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, most of this stuff has been happening on social media. This woman is good to follow: https://mobile.twitter.com/RadfemJana

But I'll explain some of what the issue is. So you probably know about how black women are considered to many people and many black men to be unattractive. And you know that's fine! Everyone has different tastes. However, there are many people, some (not all, there are many good black men even ones that aren't attracted to black women out there.) black men in particular who took not being attracted to black women to an entirely new level of disrespect. For years on social media, people were (and still are) making fun of black women relentlessly. Saying how manly and disgusting we are, comparing us to cockroaches saying no one wanted us or that we were all loud and ratchet. This even went so far as for a black man to assault a black woman who rejected him with a longboard. He was dragged on social media for this and his short lived half-assed response was to whine about how he's not attracted to black women and how she deserved to be assaulted because of it. Not to mention there's very real documented social phenomena where black girls are considered "fast" (read slutty) as ages as young as 6, they are thought of as adults at very young ages. There's also expectations for black women to put up with abuse from black men or to not report it because the police might kill him or they'd be putting another black man in jail. So from this came the #divest movement and the most recent incarnation of the black femininity movement. Content creators were calling this behavior out and telling straight black girls to make better choices in dating, to not just go after black men but to go after men who treat them well (no pick me behavior), as well as giving tips on how to be more feminine.

So the problem with transwomen comes here. The divesters and black femininity movements are and were very clear that their movement is not inclusive and it is not for everyone. It is for black women who support their worldview and if you don't, cool, off you go somewhere else. If you aren't a black woman, cool, that's fine, this movement is not for you. And that's where transwomen took offense. The divesters said that they considered transwomen to be transwomen and weren't even that transphobic about it. To this, TRAs decided to come at them with some quite racist statements like, black women will never be considered feminine so stop trying and support your trans sister, being feminine is white supremacy etc etc. And this has greatly angered black women on social media and it is like they are all hitting peak trans at once.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

his short lived half-assed response was to whine about how he's not attracted to black women and how she deserved to be assaulted because of it.

That sounds like textbook narcissism. Jesus.

There's also expectations for black women to put up with abuse from black men or to not report it because the police might kill him or they'd be putting another black man in jail.

That is seriously so scary to think about, let alone go through. I grew up in a highly abusive household and I can't even imagine having that extra level of pressure there on people finding out.

It is for black women who support their worldview and if you don't, cool, off you go somewhere else. If you aren't a black woman, cool, that's fine, this movement is not for you. And that's where transwomen took offense.

It's like, any time there is anything remotely related to "woman", TRAs treat it like a test. Of their womanhood. Similar to how some are so fixated on dating lesbians and gay men when there are many bisexuals who would be happy to date a trans person.

That lashback racism is awful. I was reading some of the tweets posted on the account that you linked. It seems like many of the trans people lashing out are white, though, they're not even black-- not that that would be okay either, I mean, but I wonder how many white trans people get off on the power trip of supposedly being "the most marginalized group". We shouldn't even be comparing how marginalized groups are to each other anyway, like this is some kind of sick competition..

Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate it.

[–]fijupanda 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

christ in a pink tutu.

so basically black women should what... just shoulder the entire black community, black trans community and coddle them and everyone else before themselves? fuck that shit. you go your own way, ladies. divest movement. I like the sound of that.

TRAs are so fucking annoying. They keep insulting women for everything from calling a infertile woman a barren cunt to insulting how real vaginas looks like... They're so jealous, and petty. ugh

[–]fijupanda 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

what the flying rat's ass...

black women don't look like men. ffs, trans snowflakes need to stop projecting their own insecurities. so ridiculous.

they can uplift themselves if they stopped being such racist, misogynistic nitwits for a day at least.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is why this all feels like an incel-invasion nightmare. They are so clueless they haven't stopped to ask themselves what actually makes a person attractive to other people. Hint: It is never being a jackass. They would have far less to whine and bully about if they actually worked on themselves. It isn't everyone else's fault they don't like what they see when someone holds up a mirror.