Bisexual[Rant] I wish the original meanings of bisexual and pansexual was brought back

submitted by LasagnaRossa from (self.LGBDropTheT)

Until, what, five years ago it was fine to specify whether you liked trans people too or not with a label. It was useful, quick and judgment-free.

The two labels were created because being attracted to those people too is not obvious at all. In the same way as it's not obvious to be attracted to your own gender too when you're "straight".

But nooooo, the definitions of bisexual and pansexual had to be changed, because otherwise trans people got offended.

So now, the bi in bisexual stands for "two or more genders", not "two genders" as it was originally intended; and the pan in pansexual stands for "regardless of gender" in place of the most obvious "everyone".

Goddammit, we have the true intended meaning at the beginning of those two words! Screw your wokeism!

And what the fuck does "regardless of gender" mean? Who the hell is attracted to anyone just because their sex? Falling in love with personality is not a sexual attraction, goddammit.

The new definitions are so stupid and useless, I wish the old meanings would get back.

/rant

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[–]fuck_reddit 30 insightful - 10 fun30 insightful - 9 fun31 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

We should just start a campaign that TQ+ people are horribly xenophobic for their butchering of Greek words (ie -phobia, homo, hetero, pan, bi, etc.) and that they should be more culturally sensitive to the original meanings of these words.

[–]Ko-hi 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Not if you don't want to sacrifice the word lesbian (people from Lesbos apparently don't like it).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd like to see the statistics about that. I routinely hear the claim that people from Lesbos don't like the term 'lesbian' because of its association with gay women, but I've never seen this evidenced outside of a news article about a court case involving a whole three people who found the term insulting.

On the contrary, it seems that it's quite well-received by the locals. The bits that I can find about opinions is that it's seen very tongue-in-cheek and is even something that they're proud of (read: Sappho).

I think sane people have this wonderful capacity to contextually differentiate between words that have more than one meaning. Dumb-dumbs will, however, always find something irrational to be offended about.

[–]Movellon 10 insightful - 25 fun10 insightful - 24 fun11 insightful - 25 fun -  (4 children)

Isn’t pansexuality when you’re attracted to all two of the sexes instead of just both of the sexes?

[–]LasagnaRossa[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or not

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty sure they are

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, isn't that the most redundant thing ever?

[–]SilverWolf 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

well, the "regardless of gender" part is actually what I've always heard pansexual defined as, and it's defined like that because it makes them sound superior. You just say you're attracted to everyone and you sound like you 'get around' (Just look at how much this happens to bisexuals)

[–]fuck_reddit 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

True, the "pan" people I've met seem to use it as a way to signal that they get "laid" even though its clear they don't...

[–]Aloudmeow 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, it’s horrible having your sexuality denied, especially when bisexual people are already so marginalized. I will adamantly complain to anyone who asks, though, that bisexuality means you’re attracted to men for being men and women for being women, and not to people with male bodies cosplaying women!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't understand why it now means we are the group that has to automatically accept those wearing their mental illness on their sleeves (or knee highs, if you will). Just because we like both, doesn't mean we should be socially pressured to take any and all.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish pansexual wasn't even a thing. The term is obnoxious and redundant.

[–]Ko-hi 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

The first time I've ever seen pan used on the internet, it was in reference to humans + aliens, sentient animals, furries etc. So sure bring the original meaning back.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they do love tinkering with the language.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

If only people stopped and think for a second. "Bi" means "two". And "two" is not "two or more" it is just "two".

[–]LasagnaRossa[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The standard answer is BuT lAnGuAgE cHaNgE

[–]markiemarcus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Novigender two-spirits threw the first brick.

[–]Silverdarling 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So as I understand it, in the new acronym soup there's no longer a Stonewall-approved sexuality to define those of us who fancy both men and women. Or those of us who only fancy the same sex. Like all same-sex attracted people now are told we must fancy transfolk or else we're evil 'transphobes' who will be excommunicated from the church of LGB??

Are straights allowed to keep 'heterosexual' to mean the opposite sex or are the wokescolds now redefining that for them too? I can't remember if 'straight' has its own little flag now for the corporate 'anyone can be queer' Pride money-grubbing.

But I'd LOVE to watch the gender wokesters demand that straights must consider mentally ill role-players as their life partners! Lol. The day the gender cult starts berating straight men for not dating transvestites with lady-dicks is the day this whole assault on reality comes crashing down.

In the meantime I'll stick with the oldspeak meaning of 'bisexual' and the knowledge that 2+2=4. And wonder if there's mileage in creating a LGB dating app to purposefully exclude all transfolk so those of us who are 'cissexually-minded' can live our lives in peace and only date people we actually fancy...

[–]LasagnaRossa[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are straights allowed to keep 'heterosexual' to mean the opposite sex or are the wokescolds now redefining that for them too?

As long as I know, they think heterosexual people are attracted by trans people too, as long as they are of the opposite gender (lol). But they don't harass the straight community since they know they are outnumbered and straights won't drink their kool aid.

[–]shufflepofty 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I realized today that I think that to wokies I actually am bisexual or pansexual? I would normally call myself "very straight" but I can easily find online a "before" picture of a trans man that I'm attracted to. According to the wokies, that person has been a man their whole life. So I'm attracted to a man. So do wokies think I'm bi/pan? Do I get oppression points? Honestly in their worldview it's not clear that there are many straight people.