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[–]PainfulTruthsMatter 54 insightful - 2 fun54 insightful - 1 fun55 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

If gay men assume trans aren't going to eventually be attempting to colonize their spaces with homophobia in the name of "inclusiveness" then they've learned no lessons from exactly that having repeatedly happen to lesbian women.

[–]hellonumpty 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think a lot gay men haven't looked at lesbians and learned from them because lesbians were/are painted as hysterical women with ''dick trauma'' who are making up that trans women are invading their spaces. A lot of people just take that and run with it without actually looking into it. Then don't realise the truth until it happens to them.

[–]Doorknob8 9 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

I don't want to be pedantic, but "Lesbian women" is an oxymoron.

[–]Revision10Just a guy 40 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 4 fun41 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

redundant *

lesbians are women, "transwomen lesbian" would be an oxymoron

[–]Doorknob8 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, I stand corrected, thanks.

[–]PainfulTruthsMatter 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, but it felt weird writing "gay men" (cause gay can sometimes refer to homosexuality of either sex) only to just write "lesbians" at the end. Really, I should have just written "women", period, since trans people are invading women's health spaces and policing their language ("menstruators and cervix-havers"), not just lesbian spaces!

[–]fuck_reddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I say “lesbian women” sometimes, almost exclusively though when i say “lesbian women and gay men” because otherwise it sounds like im saying there are lesbian men and gay men.

[–]materialrealityplz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A tautology I think, is what you mean, haha.

[–]Ossidiana 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I think they aren't wrong in assuming the TRAs may hesitate in colonizing the gay subreddit. I mean..... the lesbian subreddit was about women, and the TRAs are all about hating women. A gay subreddit is about men, and are the TRAs courageous enough to actually fight other men? I don't think so.

[–]fuck_reddit 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They are definitely trying rn, but the gay men are getting more and more aggressive as the TRA's goals become clear.