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[–]Nojesuits 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

All historical families are educated by the Jesuits, rich or poor

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

until they decide they are more useful dead i guess.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fallacy.

[–]Nojesuits 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The opposition is controlled by the Jesuits

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, if we can take anything at all for granted, this is it! :-))

always both sides.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, all oppositions are Controlled by Jesuits. Totally, lol.

[–]Nojesuits 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No problem, it is not the only one, on Wikipedia it is said to be a fake, it is the Jesuits who control the two sides, the truth is in the Vatican library, the more people do not look at reality the more the Jesuits will make their way

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Nojesuits 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Thanks for the link

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

np, as always!

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

wanted to ask, what do you think about the claims that the 'Monita Secreta Societatis Jesu' are forgeries?

[–]Nojesuits 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You have to be careful of books and everything, certain books are written by the Jesuits to inform of their power because if it were secret it would not come out to the people, I look very much at reality and history and their spiritual actions, I see that what is there written in the monita Secreta is reality, then of course they can say the opposite, everyone is free to think as they want, nobody has the truth in their pocket only in the secret Vatican library there is the truth, but we could never access it. It helps to look at the reality of the facts without fantasizing

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

it is really just a local user..

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Okay, hear me out. I believe, through reading books, that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion' are like the Monita Secreta a forgery but NOT a forgery in the sense that they were written, both, for a reason. In the case of the Zion document, it is likely, theosophists who wrote this document, not some rabbis or Jews, as for the Monita Secreta, this document was written in 1596. And the blood purity laws between the Memorialist Crypto-Jews and non-Jewish Catholic aligned Jesuits is the sooe reason why this forgery exists. In 1593 all Jews were to be excluded from the Jesuit society. No new members were to recieved, that is u til 1608, when they finally made it less lenient, in the 18th century they were further supressed. Modern Jesuits do not act or behave like the despots of the traditional Catholic Jesuit order but of a Humanist, Futurist, liberal-oriented belief system, very much like Secular Catholics and Secular Jews do today. I believe, today, many of the Memorialistas have retaken the Jesuit order.

That being said, someone within the Jesuit order, a converso, wrote this forgery because of his anger of the blood purity laws. There are so many things wrong with the Monita Secreta like the Elders of Zion doc that do not mesh with former instructions and documents about the Jesuits.

1590's was a heated time and two corrupt parties the memorialists and the Catholic aligned Jesuits were fighting. Each calling the other a despot, merchant out to obtain world domination.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh thanks, send my a video like you always do, with zero references to what it is or what it supplements or counters my statement. I'm not going to go through the entire video. Tell me what you learned from it and how it debunks or supplements my post above.

Remember, we all come to our own truth somehow.

There's zero sources for this video.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is also lots of anecdotal stories in this work. I don't know why you sent it? I told you what I believe, and you sending me a video does little to help me understand what you think of my statement and what you believe to be wrong or right and why? I came to these conclusions through reading books, and I'm no Jew hater, nor a Catholic hater, but I do know the higher-up's whether they reside as Pagans in the Papacy or Jews following the Cabala and Talmud which is the antithesis of Yeshua's teachings.

After all, Rome and the pro-creditor class of Jews killed their messiah.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like I said, the 'Monita Secreta' had a point but it was a forgery three years after the Blood Purity Laws. The majority of scholars believe it to be a forgery and although I will not rest my opinion on an appeal to authority, through reading, I have also come to that same conclusion. It was likely a forgery by a Jesuit memorialist. Keep in mind, many of the crypto-Jews of the Jesuits and there were plenty mixed in with despot non-Jew Jesuits, practiced the Jewish Cabala.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The video has literally nothing to do with my statement above on an episode which occurred in the 16th century.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, 'Behind the Dictators' for all the truth it may hold, which it appears much is hearsay, it is published by Jack Chick, a Christian Zionist who pushes the dreaded Scofield bible and tells Christians that if they do not support Israel and Jews America will be destroyed by God.

Evangelicals and the protestant sect of Christendom is just as bad as Catholicism, probably not worse but still bad enough. Both are anti-Christ, just as today's Judaism, modern Pharisaism is anti-Christ.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

jic others also wondered about the georgetown history prof, carrol quigley's connection to the historically more significant carrols:

Quigley does not descend directly from those Carrolls, the landed Marylanders who were influential enough in the Revolutionary years to have a signature on the Constitution. Instead, Quigley’s maternal ancestors were the less affluent Carrolls left behind in Ireland who only got around to making it to Halifax a few generations ago. On his father’s side, the Quigleys were so poor they couldn’t even wait for the potato famine to leave Ireland for Boston in 1828.

http://www.carrollquigley.net/biography/The-Professor-Who-Knew-Too-Much.htm

but maybe they were the same family back in ireland?