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[–]fschmidt 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Do you fundamentally hate tech or do you just hate modern tech? I am a programmer who hates modern tech. In fact I hate modern culture generally and I hate everything that it produces. So I developed my own programming tools so that I can program without modern tech, and now I like programming again.

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In fact I hate modern culture generally and I hate everything that it produces

Yeah I guess that is more accurate. I like technology in general, but the corporate culture, the endless marketing of cheap disposable nothings, and narcissistic quest for online validation have ruined it for me. Not to mention the spying, lying, and hacking from every direction. I think you're on the right course, and I'm not far behind. I don't want to use other people's software anymore, I don't trust it, I don't like it, I want back to enjoying the things I made to get things done. I haven't made my own programming tools, but I have started using my own stuff for tracking budget, scheduling, etc. Why should my budget be on some corporations' cloud server because I have to use thier accounting software? It's just a spreadsheet. I can make that myself, so I did. I don't have to learn some new program's interface, I made the interface. It's so much better.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Most programmers are very much part of the problem, writing horrible code. In fact I haven't seen any other programmer making posts in support of good programming. So I just naturally assume that decent programmers are extinct (except me). If you support good programming, you could make some posts about this. Here are my posts on /s/programming.

[–]BigPoppaMoses 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most programmers are very much part of the problem, writing horrible code. In fact I haven't seen any other programmer making posts in support of good programming

I know this is an old post, but I'm a new member, so just seeing this today. So as someone who is looking to get started in programming, any tips on what to do/where to go in order to avoid horrible coding habits?

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The obsession with "horrible coding habits" is primarily the occupation of egoists, whose inability to write useful programs must be made up for with the assertion that the way in which they write code is superior — and although certain conventions should be met, it is not a law that good programs are written in a prescriptive manner.

Take, for example: 8values. The code is not very well written, with the most notable offense being the tabulation of equal signs (an aggravation of mine, since it makes it annoying to edit), however this does not make the program bad; 8values is a respected political test, and I marvel at its usability and functionality — just not in the way it's written.

Try to focus on coding good programs instead of preoccupying yourself with ensuring everything you write matches every convention. It's good to make sure you're meeting the conventions, since they're conventions for a reason, but that should not overshadow the program itself. (Also, please don't tab over equal signs because you think it looks pretty.)

By the way, welcome to SaidIt!

[–]BigPoppaMoses 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for this, mate!

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You're welcome!