Leaving Reddit for trying erase women.

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[–]takeyourjoyjohn 66 insightful - 2 fun66 insightful - 1 fun67 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

As a woman, I strongly disagree with the transgender shit. Here's my reasoning. (holy shit I can say this without a ban!)

A man wanting to become a woman only wants the beauty of being a woman. He doesn't want the menstrual bullshit.. The roller coaster of emotions, the pain of bearing children.. No he wants to be able to be accepted for wearing dresses and makeup and YASSSSS gurl accent. He wants to perpetuate the female stereotype, all while screaming "ThErES nO gEnDeR!"

Being a woman isn't all grace, beauty, fashion...it's pain, suffering and confusion...its just being human is what I'm getting at. You're not a woman by cutting off your dick or by putting on a dress and being good at blending your makeup. That stuff doesn't make a woman. Those are stereotypes.

Tell me how you feel like a woman? What does that even mean? The only time I'm reminded that I am a woman is when my female organs start yelling at me and stabbing me from within.

By wanting to be the other gender, you're just admitting that gender stereotypes are true for you.

Is this line of thinking sound? I'd like some feedback honestly. Especially from an opposing side so I can discuss it.

[–]Whoscapes 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A man wanting to become a woman only wants the beauty of being a woman.

I'd sharpen this point to instead be something like: "A man who wants to be treated as a woman can never experience the physical, bodily reality of being a woman - only the superficial".

But look, the whole thing is frankly besides the point. There are women who feel the way you do and you deserve a space to talk with one another in a fashion you see fit. It's freedom of association and freedom of speech. You are denied the former in many legal contexts and the latter on many social media platforms.

I don't consider myself a feminist for a few reasons but fuck people who want to stop you from having conversations.

[–]takeyourjoyjohn 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really appreciate your input. Conversations like these allow me to grow as an individual and see other perspectives.

And you're right, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find a platform to discuss "harsh" opinions without a witch hunt ensuing. So nowadays I always feel obligated to thank someone with whom I've had a rational discussion with.

[–]Whoscapes 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks and I feel the same way. I love reading all kinds of ideological books and ideas because it helps me figure out what I think by seeing what I oppose. Even with GC stuff as a dude I would sometimes flick through the sub to know the terminology just because I find it interesting - if it matters to other people then it probably has something worth at least glancing over.

I have two older sisters who I love dearly so I always found it a bit stinging seeing unfairly negative sentiment towards guys on fem subs but I get it's mostly blowing off steam or the consequence of bad experiences. Lord knows there are male spaces which do it as bad and worse, especially in pornographic context which is just disturbing.