I have Reached the Limits of My Endurance with Web-Crawling Robots. The Time to Take the Nuclear Option has Finally Arrived.

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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The bots on saidit can spoof any IP address. They change IP addresses with every pageload request. They change usernames with every submission. It's very hard to stop in an automated way, which is of course their intention. I agree the problem is very out of control, and it makes cloudflare a necessity rather than an option. It's damaging free speech and damaging the town squares of the internet that real people are trying to use to genuinely communicate about important things.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The bots on saidit can spoof any IP address.

The only way to do this, is if you dig a hole in the ground somewhere and inject traffic of your own. I highly doubt this is the case.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The IP addresses are way outside of any "range" that I could block off, that's for sure. They can basically take on any IP address they want.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Having a large collection of IP addresses in many ranges or having the capability to inject arbitrary traffic into networks (based on your "spoof any IP address") is very much not the same.

If you kept statistics of the IP addresses, you could send those to whatever government you have and if you could show that the networks themselves have been compromised, that would be a matter of national security.

If (D)DoS is a problem, you should perhaps just not host it on the WWW in the first place. The WWW is designed for a friendly academic environment, not for the hybrid warfare environment in which you are. If you want to stay on the WWW, you would have to throw just about every technique in existence at it, like Facebook does, but it's probably more expensive than you can handle.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you kept statistics of the IP addresses, you could send those to whatever government you have and if you could show that the networks themselves have been compromised, that would be a matter of national security.

They do not care about a site like saidit, get real. There's also a high likelihood they're supportive of the attacks anyway. Also the IPs don't fall in ranges, as I said. I've gathered long-term statistics about the IP grouping and there is no pattern!

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your analysis clearly is of low quality. They wouldn't be interested in such details to save saidit, but they would be interested in knowing an adversary is on their networks, but like I said, the most likely explanation is that your analysis is flawed. If I had such a capability, I would deploy it against high value targets.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They already know what's going on on their networks, they have access to the backbones. You don't understand how this works

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like I am talking to a primate. Feel free to tell me about your academic degrees and I might want to take you serious, even though you are not replying in any intelligent fashion; if you were an AI, I would press the thumb down button.