TERF apparently doesn't know what HRT or SRS do

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[–]FediNetizen 31 insightful - 3 fun31 insightful - 2 fun32 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

And they only make up a small portion of the listed items on said table, which was the point. The fact that the changes often aren't entirely convincing aside, even with the full spectrum of HRT, SRS, etc, you're still not the opposite sex, but the same sex mimicking the appearance of the opposite sex.

[–]catoboros 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, trans people do not change sex, only sex characteristics (and not all change these). This is one reason why we now use the term transgender rather than transsexual.

[–]FediNetizen 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

But the real reason is political. Part of the modern TQ+ movement is about denying the existence (or at least the significance) of sex. Adopting the term transgender, rather than transsexual, gives cover to the self-ID crowd (i.e. people like Jonathan Yaniv).

Contrapoints at one point described herself as "one of the last of the true transsexuals" and then was forced to apologize for that by the TQ+ crowd. The apology was necessary because they demand the denial of the sex binary.

To claim the name switch was an acknowledgment that transsexual don't actually switch sex is revisionism.

[–]catoboros 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting. I was not there when the switch happened, so I do not know the motivation. I get a lot of rage from the trans community for suggesting that sex is real, binary, and immutable, but it does the trans community no good at all to deny objective biological facts.

[–]theachan[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The most amazing part is that they all have a "usually".

[–]FediNetizen 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Because genetic and physical abnormalities exist. But any deviations from the norm in this case just mean you potentially end up with non-functional reproductive parts. If you were born capable of reproduction, then it won't be ambiguous which sex you are.

[–]theachan[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

You'd be surprised.

[–]firebird 20 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Then surprise us.