If men aren't allowed to have male only spaces, why should we allow women to have their own spaces?

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[–]womanual 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I disagree. Male privilege means men and boys are more likely to be taken seriously than women and girls in every facet of society. I've personally seen this in my life. I've worked in places where men's ideas were taken more seriously than women with way better ideas. Likewise, when a man claims to be raped by a woman, he is more likely to be believed and to be given resources than a woman alleging she was raped by a man. I am a petite woman, but even if a man twice my strength and size claims I assaulted him and whatnot, he is more likely to be believed simply because he's a man. That's the consequences of living in a society where men are privileged.

I don't know anyone who thinks a woman assaulting a man funny. In fact, I see the opposite. When women talk male violence against women, men love to deflect the conversation with wHaT aBoUt ThE mEn or mEn ArE nOt TaKeN sErIoUsLy when we know that’s not true. Men are more likely to be taken seriously, even when they falsely accuse women of rape. Google "woman rapes man" or "women gang raped man" and you will find ZERO articles about women raping men, but hundreds of articles about men raping women. I'm not saying it's impossible for a woman to rape a man, but I know if it happened it would definitely be covered by a major news source like ABC, CBS or NYT simply because we live in a patriarchal society where men are respected. But I can't find such articles? I wonder why. Based on this, I think it's extremely rare for a woman to rape a man, if it happens at all.

[–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I really don't think a man who claims to be raped by a woman is more likely to be believed than a woman claiming to be raped by a man. There are still many who just reject the notion that a woman can rape a man. I might be one of those actually. I think in England the act would have to be called sexual assault legally because of how rape is defined. I absolutely can see sexual assaults done to men by women (however rare that would be) and psychological damage being done to LATE adolescent boys by adult women (but I also don't think such boys always suffer the kind of harm in those situations as adolescent girls suffer. I'm not saying it's right or anything like that.)

I don't think the fact that in the work place your ideas are ignored while some guy's ideas are taken more seriously transfers over to rape. Are there groups who will take such things more seriously? Probably. Are there groups, especially on the internet, that drum everything up into a category 5 hurricane during a civilization-ending asteroid collision? Yes. But I think in general society, the idea of a woman raping a man is still largely laughed off and only after some details are shared is the matter assessed. "Believe all men" was never a hashtag for good reason. Also, probably too many cheating guys tried offering up some version of that as an excuse: "What??? NO! It was her! I was just ... (insert what ever circumstance the guy was caught in) ... and she came along and ... she couldn't resist me. Stop laughing sweety, some find me irresistible it seems. This is difficult enough already. Don't go. Please."

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s extremely rare, except for the niche circumstance of female teachers seducing their high school students, and then it’s nearly 100% female perpetrators. And yes, statutory rape is rape.

**** sexual assault, not rape