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[–]our_team_is_winning 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"For me, [the baths] was a place where I went before surgery just to feel accepted and included as a woman.

It was for his validation. Dude, you are not a woman. I don't care about your implants or any piece of paper or any absurd Australian law. You are male, mister.

Equality Australia CEO Anna Brown says all Australians should be allowed to live with dignity as who they are.

Except women, who are not allowed to have female-only spaces.

And a woman is NOT who he is. If you're taking chemicals and having surgery to "become" something, that's not who you are.

[–]Chunkeeguy 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes because women are regularly raped by what's between a man's ears.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

And here's the problem the trans community forces us to deal with repeatedly. We're constantly told that trans rights are not incompatible with women's rights, and yet we see repeated examples of women not being allowed to maintain sex specific spaces for themselves, and that women must perform the emotional labor of validating trans people.

The question is not about the rights of trans people. Rather, the question is: "Are women are allowed to say no and refuse demands that they provide validation to males who identify as trans?". I think the answer is a definite yes. After all, that validation is often in the form of autogynephilic sexual gratification, where they get a kind of sexual thrill from being treated as a woman. It does not necessarily involve an actual orgasm or such, but it's still forcing the public to engage with and be a partner (albeit a passive partner) to a fetishy activity.

Because that validation has a high chance of being tied to autogynephilia, demands that women submit to being objects of validation are inherently rapey. This is especially true with transgenderism nowadays that's trendy and very openly fetishy. Back when transsexualism was rare and always involved the care and supervision of a medical team, not to mention years of oversight beforehand so the person knew what they were committing to, there were enough hoops to jump through that the person wanting to be trans could be safely assumed to be treating a legitimate case of gender dysphoria, and not simply looking for an autogynephilic thrill. There's actually rightly more stigma nowadays on men who identify as trans in women's spaces simply because there's far less medical oversight involved, and women are safely assuming that they're dealing with a potential autogynephile.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

God that's scary.

[–]yipopov 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They always conveniently crop out the dick bulge in these kinds of articles.

[–]hfxB0oyA 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What's between their ears is also underwhelming.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"What's between your ears" is the brain of a male. The similarities that are cited by trans people to prove they're "born in the wrong body" can be attributed to androphilia and gynephilia - attraction to men or women. A gay man is not a woman and does not have a "lady brain."

So you're male, bro.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want to be in a bath with someone who I have a less likely chance of fending off, I don't want to be in a bath with someone who has an open wound, especially of the crotch type that never closes up because that's a deep gash and would have less biological sealants (or none) compared to a scratch and therefore could put me at more risk contracting an unwanted STI. I also don't like the idea of splashing water in my face and wonder "Why does the water look at bit red? What's that weird iron taste?" because some of the water has entered my mouth.

"All Australians should be treated equally and allowed to live with dignity as who they are."

"Equality" does not equal "Validity". It means we all have basic human rights, trying to convince an entire nation you're of the opposite sex and demanding for the same privileges put in place to protect the opposite sex when you're not of that sex is just being selfish than the regular narcissist. I don't have an issue with homosexuals because what they like is not damaging and they're not going around forcing us to change how we see them and talk to them, they try to make us see it as an extra or different thing (I'm using homosexuals as an example of a group of people who aren't so annoyingly demanding and yet need to fight for their rights), but trans people outright might as well try to convince us that the emperor is wearing new clothes and to treat them like emperors.