OMG - Katy Montgomerie, TiM extraordinaire - lurks on Ovarit! What about us, Katy, are we not TERF enough for you?!?!?

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[–]germinare 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When are men going to get it into their heads that it’s not our fucking problem what they do to each other?

[–]Greykittymomma 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Hmmmmmm why do we want spaces away from men? So we don't have to deal with their dicks. What don't you get?

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I disagree that it's just about their dicks. IMO, it's about men's eyes & brains too - getting away from the male gaze. I've met men who lost their dicks and balls who still looked at girls & women as if we were pieces of meat. No thanks.

[–]Greykittymomma 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Fair enough my friend. I am mostly concerned with being raped or molested by intact men but I agree with hating the constant objectification as well. Especially now that I have a daughter.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've also been in the presence of men in veterans' hospitals, rehab facilities, senior centers and nursing homes who were entirely incapable of committing rape or assault coz they'd had their legs amputated or they were elderly, frail, addled, in wheelchairs, had suffered strokes and so on... Yet these men nonetheless still looked at girls & women in leering, lascivious ways.

Moreover, I've been in lots of situations where all the males present were gay yet they still showed prurient interests in - and inappropriate, misogynistic & dehumanizing attitudes towards - female people and our bodies.

[–]Greykittymomma 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really does suck and you don't realize how much you endure over a lifetime. Thanks for the responses.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Katy Montgomerie is an odd duck. He appears to be HSTS and I presume has had vaginoplasty. He appears to think all transwomen are the same as him. If that were the case, we likely wouldn't have the problems that we do. He acknowledges that 'women-only' spaces are important, but can't explain what that means when a 'transwoman' is physically indistinguishable from a man.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Homosexual men who have their balls removed and their scrotums and penises reconfigured can still be misogynists, male supremacists, entitled narcissists and colonizers.