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[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I might be wrong, but I think that one factor that contributes to men being more accepting of the reality that they have a physical advantage over women in most sports, is that a lot of them pride themselves in it. I've stumbled upon quite a few guys who make fun of the idea of males in female sports, but not because they actually care about female sports, but because they take pride in knowing they can "wipe the floor" with us, as one of them put it.

And, as GConly said, younger women are the ones who tend to be more supportive of TIMs in women's sports. I suspect this might be happening because third wave feminism has tried to erase every difference between men and women, in an attempt to "empower" women or instill more confidence in them. I remember being a teenage girl and furiously refusing to accept that most men have a strength advantage over most women. It seemed horribly unfair (it still feels that way to me now, after coming to terms with reality).

Other factors that could contribute to young women being in favor of this is that they are more invested in being seen as "good people" who wouldn't deny others their "rights", and also, that a lot of them don't actually play sports, so they don't understand the implications.

[–]usehername 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Controlling for other factors (such as size), men only beat women in explosive muscle power. Women have more endurance, and need less rest between sets (when weightlifting). Women's training is hindered by attempts to force them to train like men. The reason that women have smaller skeletons is that they hit puberty earlier than men. Near the end of puberty (I'm talking about the end of development, technically people are fertile before this), males and females both get a surge of estrogen which strengthens the bones and ends the growth of the skeleton. Obesity is more prevalent in females, which can contribute to hitting an early puberty. Sexual abuse also causes early puberty. I also think it's possible that just being sexualized from basically infancy also plays a role, even if a girl is not sexually abused by another person. The fact that estrogen is not filtered out of our water (basically, women on birth control pee it into the water system and we drink it) also plays a role. Women are also discouraged from pursuing athletics and even from playing in a way that they would get any exercise from a young age. Of course, sex-segregated sports are very important, but I just thought I'd tell you this because I felt better (and in some ways, angrier) when I learned it. It's not that women are naturally small and weak, we have been made that way by our environment.

[–]Archie 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just to nitpick, the oestrogen in water from birth control thing is originally a conservative christian talking point.

Most oestrogen in water come from agriculture. 90% from animal manure, specifically. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101208125813.htm

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting! A lot of environmental problems would be solved by stopping our reliance on farmed animals.