“They want to teach their daughters body acceptance and self-advocacy? MUST BE A CULT!”

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[–]Hard_headed_woman 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

With teens and young women, ROGD is how they opt out of the difficulties of being a woman.

With older women, EVEN if they did have dysphoria and wanted to transition, I just don't see most women being that selfish. Most women wouldn't do that to their children, imo.

[–]fuckingsealions 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with you, and I think that older women also have enough experience in the world to know that it's no escape.

[–]MarkTwainiac 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most older women have a healthy wariness of the medical and psychiatric establishment and Big Pharma as well. Older women also tend to be aware of the preciousness and precariousness of good health, so they're less likely to put their health at risk the way trans people do so willingly and casually. Plus older women usually have long outgrown the childish habits of mind that are involved in transmania - such as magical and wishful thinking, shallow lookism, spending hours mirror-gazing, constantly comparing one's self to others, and believing that "the grass is always greener" and that human biology is inconsequential and can be overcome and denied by identifying out of it.

[–]ThisSiteIsUnusable 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Older women also tend to be aware of the preciousness and precariousness of good health, so they're less likely to put their health at risk the way trans people do so willingly and casually.

This is a big one. Children and teenagers, if everything has gone as it should, have no experience of the kind of problems they're setting themselves up for. They're at their peak or near their peak ability to just handle things, physically. They can eat like crap, not exercise, not get enough sleep, drink too much, sunburn and just kind of... be okay, in the short term. "Brittle bones" and "vaginal atrophy" and "hypertension" are just words. They don't have the context or, bluntly, often the cognitive ability to actually understand what they're asking for. They just see the thing they want (being more like what they imagine a man to be) and want it, now. Because they're kids.

It depresses me. I know so many women who only got into mountain biking or thru-hiking or a martial art in their 30s or 40s. They've almost all said that apart from the fun of the thing itself, they like how much it's made them appreciate what their bodies can do, how much happier they are now than in their 20s when they were focused on how their bodies looked. A lot of these kids who are going on "puberty blockers" are simply not going to have that option. Their bones won't be able to take it.