The problem I have with transwomen is that they keep trying to speak FOR women

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[–]WrongToy 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Blaire dragged ContraPoints over their "transition" (CP was identifying as some sort of nonbinary at that time). I've never heard them to drag women over abortion or PCOS or any other women's issue. Blaire is a pre-op and BW stays in their own lane about this (besides the restroom).

Honestly if I hadn't seen Blaire on Yaniv I wouldn't know who they were. If I saw them in the restroom (besides that I know who BW is) it'd be a "tree falls in the forest does anyone hear it" kind of thing.

[–]uglyelephant121[S] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How do you miss Blaire's numerous videos on 'feminism is cancer' and making fun of radical feminists? How do you miss all the pro-MRA videos Blaire has put up? If you only pay attention to Blaire's videos on transgender people, yes, he'd seem like a reasonable TiM. But you'd have to ignore all of his anti-women videos to come to that conclusion. At the end of the day, Blaire is a man and I feel disgusted that he feels the right to degrade women and radical feminists while propping up men and the alt right.

Also, I wasn't only talking about Blaire White or just Contrapoints. That's why I added 'and other TiMs.' It's something that's in a lot of communities online by several trans individuals.

[–]WrongToy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not saying Blaire is a woman. I'm saying they wouldn't pose an extant threat like 90 percent of TIMs because, well, they pass in the bathroom and they're not doing any of that "I have TAMPONS in my purse if ANYONE NEEDS" BS.

[–]uglyelephant121[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The point of my post was calling out men dressed as woman for speaking for and on women's rights issues as if they are women. Blaire White is one of them and so are several others.

[–]Anonimouse 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But Blaire has never really claimed to be a woman. So, is the speaking out any different to any of the other hundreds of videos responding to something else on the net?

[–]Anna_Nym 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it matters, though, how open a transwoman is about their biological maleness. I am totally fine with men speaking about women's issues and feminism, especially now that I've seen how quickly and easily identity politics devours communities. We are all living in this world together; we are all affected by social norms and policies; we all have a right to comment and have opinions on issues.

That said, of course, I'm going to judge how a person talks about issues slightly differently based on how much skin in the game they have. So Blaire talking about feminism from a transwoman's perspective on her personal social media channels... totally fine to me. If Blaire claimed to be a woman and to have grown up as a girl, that would be appropriation.

[–]uglyelephant121[S] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Just a couple years ago, Blaire was extremely popular in the anti-feminists community. If you go to YouTube and enter 'Blaire White feminism,' you will see several anti-feminist, pro-MRA videos pop up. Not to mention the alt right videos. He has not renounced any of his views just because he's shifted focus to easier targets. Do you not see the irony behind a man denouncing feminism and propping up MRA's while claiming he's a woman?

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They give themselves away, even though they don't intend to. I think them denouncing feminism and acting like MRA's is either their subconscious/male socialization kicking in or its intentional.

I've never seen any TIM who cares about women's rights. But I've seen tonnes trying to dismantle women's rights. If they really believed they were women, then why wouldn't they help liberate women...

[–]Sebell 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have seen TIMs who care about women and women's rights - they even started a meeting group called "New Narratives". They were harassed, threatened, attempts to DOXX, cancel, get them fired from their jobs - the TRAs use threats of violence to put fear in the minds of anyone who disagrees with them. They could only get 8 transwomen to come:

https://newnarratives2014.wordpress.com/

Snowflake Especial is worth reading too. But she's stopped posting. I hope she's ok - I feel she was probably burned out or had real life events to focus on:

https://snowflakeespecial.tumblr.com/

[–]yishengqingwa666 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, NATALT. Uh huh.