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[–]MezozoicGay 32 insightful - 4 fun32 insightful - 3 fun33 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

This mega-wokeness is so destructive. Did they created anything on their own? Did they created spaces for their problems?

No, they are only going to other people (mostly women) places and destroying them, leaving so many people without help or advices. And worst part when it happens in real life and not internet, like it happened with VRR, when instead of funding their own center or at least trying to cooperate - they tried to destroy it instead.

Recently I've read (in printed press) an article that many pills nowadays are tested only on men, and even when tested on women - it is done not enough. And because of that many "general" pills are more often harmful to women (and women reproductive system is not counted at all in many cases in testing). And specifically were called "Contergan" painkillers as most destructive case of this.

And with this wokeness, what will be? Will they start testing women-specific pills on transwomen? It is all so surreal. Society lost last glimpses of logic.

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    [–]MezozoicGay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    My friend** have congenital heart defect, and she has heart attacks almost yearly. She is going to different doctors to treat this, and most doctors are saying that Heart and blood systems is slightly different in male and female bodies, however, most studies are made only on males, so sometimes not every doctors can even handle woman heart attack. Women heart diseases are very understudied. And it is something so crucial as hearth that both males and females have - I can imagine how understudied everything that is female-exclusive. And if "transwomen are women" will become norm, then women health will be tested on transwomen too, while their male body is completely different to female body?

    I don't remember when exactly, but on our history lessons we were studying history of biology and medicine as well, and there was one part I remembered (i think it was either in 1700th or 1800th) - hygiene, general medicine and pills just appeared in the western society, however, women were still dying from diseases even when were taking pills that were helping men, and even when following hygiene rulls women were still more often getting sick or die. And it was only because it was all tested and developed only on male bodies, and then assumed that women are just "smaller males" so they need same treatment, just in smaller dosages. I was really surprised how illogical people were then (but seems nothing is changing and history doing circles).

    I was reminded about this in same article, as it was written by old cardiologist.

    ** English is so weird language. My language is gendered and all words there based on sex of a person (plus sex-neutral or generalizing words), and there is no word for "gender" in it as well, only words for biological sex (I wonder if international language was not English, this gender discussions would appear at all or not?). So I am all time trying to write "girlfriend" in meaning of "women friend", however, in English "girlfriend" means mainly "girl I am in relations with" while friend means just a friend, mainly male one. Gladly there is boyfriend word too, but it is rare in english, in most cases there is "man"-word which means both males and "all humans", and then something is added to "man" part of word to become woman specified. So man is default and measure to everything in English. In my language gendered words either very different or even when they are the same, only difference is that they ending with different letter. This means most words for woman are not including "man" in it. So English for me feels so weird and so inherently sexist.

    Sorry for random thoughts.

    [–]Apricot_Ibex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    It’s quite interesting/terrifying how male quack doctors back in the day believed that men and women’s bodies could be treated exactly the same (with woman being like “smaller males” as you explained), but at the same time, society thought that male brains were so different and vastly superior to “lady brains.” Sounds familiar with some parts of trans ideology today. Men can be big-boned women, and “lady brain” is for submissives. 🤔

    Ps- Spoken Chinese has no differentiation between “he” and “she”. It’s all just one pronunciation (“tā”) and the person’s sex is only clarified in written form (他/她)or by verbally explaining that they are a “male person” or “female person”. I kind of like it, lol.

    [–]MezozoicGay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    And with "gender theory" those old quack doctors are returning back, because now "women health" will be tested and considered as "transwomen helath" too. And not the other way around. It is not transwomen who will get same treatment as female, it is female who will get treatment as transwomen, especially if society will buy that "everything in transwoman body is female".

    [–]Apricot_Ibex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Exactly. It’s so completely anti-science. Notice how being anti-science always hurts women first and foremost, whether 500 years ago or today. We’re not allowed to discuss periods, birth control, pregnancy, or menopause now without doing emotional work for validating narcissistic men, and lately we’re being told to just shut up about our health altogether.

    Until TIFs tell men to shut up about Viagra, testicular cancer, sperm count, and enlarged prostate, no one will care, and I rarely ever see any TIFs doing such things. It’s mostly all TIMs screaming “suck my girldick” and talking about their “periods.”