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[–]Camberian 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm sorry for how you feel and what you had to go through. Reading your post, could you please explain something for me? You say that you "bawled when your mother told you to get a bra". Was that about the fact you developed breasts, or due the fact that you had to wear a bra?

[–]blahblahgcer[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The former I think. Although I am a massive bra hater lmao. I still hardly go outside without a sweatshirt because I'm so uncomfortable with anyone seeing my chest.

[–]Camberian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the answer. I asked, because I also hate bras, however, my mother never told me to wear any. I own exactly one bra and one set of underpants - to wear when seeing a doctor. At all other times I don't wear any underwear at all. That has been several decades now. I rarely ever wear female clothes, if yes, then sort of djellaba-style dresses. Most of the time it is pants and shirts/t-shirts. Practical stuff. I'm not exactly "butch", because I don't consciously try to look like a man, but give it a few years yet and people would probably mistake me for Peachyoghurt's younger sister ;) Doing my own thing, if you will. I was lucky to grow up in a time and place where being individualistic was seen as a good thing.

[–]ReignRain95 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey im not OP but I have dysphoria and for me it was both in a sense. Thats a good question for me it’s because I had developed breasts and wearing a bra just came with that. It was mostly me hating having breasts and being reminded that I was a woman. I also hated bras but its not like not wearing a bra would make it go away though.

[–]Camberian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I understand the problem of dysphoria - but I was under the impression that the OP didn't suffer from it, and was more or less "talked into" being trans by people who noticed her dislike of female "trappings".

I asked, because I keep reading this (the dislike of female clothes and "being girly") and don't understand (really, I don't get it) why people would actually do the "girly stuff" and wear feminine clothes. It's not as if anybody glued them to girls at birth, right? Most parents are sensible enough to let one choose own clothing, and I'd have flipped mine the bird, if anyone had tried to force me into wearing skirts and dresses. Or a bra. Or make up. Or made me shave. Or have long hair.

Probably it is that I wonder why current youths are so accepting of rules per se. Gendered clothing and gendered behaviour being part of the "rules". I'm not that much older, but when I was in puberty we all rejected outside rules and did our own thing. Being individualistic was a badge of honour, not cause to doubt one's basic biology?