Both: What if we reframed the issue as "AFAB rights", "AFAB spaces", etc?

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[–]DogeWalker 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it becomes more clear that it really is about biological sex and not "transphobia"

GC here. I wish something like this would work... but this logic simply won't compute with extreme TRA types. To them, being clear about biological sex is "transphobia."

[–]luckystar[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe i'm just being too optimistic

[–]DogeWalker 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't be that hard on yourself... we have to keep coming up with new ideas, so optimism is required! (btw, I also did not realize the difference between AFAB and OFAB and how it makes a difference to the intersex community, until recently)

Also, despite the details about this one idea, I think there is something very important at its center... it seems obvious that there are two human sexes, but since sex is the basis for the large-scale oppression of women, we can't forget the key importance of that, and we can't concede that ground.