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[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

All language and dialect has a knock on effect on all other statements. If I can convince you to use a set of words incorrectly, or use faulty logic sets, I can use these as tools, to shift logic across unrelated topics.

Say I redefined God, then I can convince you that God exists. Then at a later time, I change the definition of God back to how I see it. I have now manufactured your consent, and you now believe in my God.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

All language and dialect has a knock on effect on all other statements.

What?

You're saying that if I go to Liverpool and pick up some scouse words, that has some effect on the meaning of everything else I say?

That doesn't sound right.

If I can convince you to use a set of words incorrectly, or use faulty logic sets

Those are two very different things. Using faulty logic is a thinking blunder, that will be corrected when it's pointed out or it's a symptom of a mental disorder such as schizophrenia. Using words incorrectly is nothing of the sort. It might lead to miscommunication, that again, generally can be resolved once you've worked out that you're not using the word exactly the same was as the people you're talking to, but it's not related to thinking the world is flat.

I can use these as tools, to shift logic across unrelated topics.

What tools?

Say I redefined God, then I can convince you that God exists.

Not really. If you defined god as the keyboard I'm using now, then you could convince me that that exists. But that's not convincing me that god exists. It's just the keyboard that exists.

Then at a later time, I change the definition of God back to how I see it.

When you do that, I no longer accept that god exists. Because by redefining a word, you don't change my core beliefs, just the words you're using to describe them.

I have now manufactured your consent, and you now believe in my God.

That's not how believing things works.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

You're saying that if I go to Liverpool and pick up some scouse words, that has some effect on the meaning of everything else I say?

I didn't say that, you did.

If you understand the purpose of abstraction layers in programing, then you can understand the use of abstraction layers in social constructs, and human language.

Example: mRNA messaging treatments are not vaccines. Yet they have convinced you they are. And that is only one level of separation. They do this with other words, with more points of separation, literally changing your thoughts, and convincing you that they are your own. Manufactured consent.

What tools?

Language and skewed logic can be used as tools. How are you not understanding the sentence as written?

That's not how believing things works.

Your beliefs, and understanding of how beliefs 'work' are not a prerequisite for objective reality, or how anything around you works.

You have been intentionally trained to think wrong.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I didn't say that, you did.

You're saying "All language and dialect has a knock on effect on all other statements."

Scouse is a dialect. So your'e saying it has a knock on effect of all other statements.

That doesn't sound right.

If you understand the purpose of abstraction layers in programing, then you can understand the use of abstraction layers in social constructs, and human language.

What do you think "abstraction layer" means in social constructs?

I can't think of anything in language that is analogous to abstraction layers in programming. The purpose of which is to facilitate refactoring.

Language and skewed logic can be used as tools.

Can they? Can you elaborate on that, perhaps with some concrete examples, so I can understand what you mean by "tool" and "skewed logic" here?

How are you not understanding the sentence as written?

Well, I suspect that its because you're on drugs, and just talking absolute bollocks, without any reality to the meaning. But I'm trying to find some sense in it.

Your beliefs, and understanding of how beliefs 'work' are not a prerequisite for objective reality, or how anything around you works.

Continually changing the subject like this makes the conversation really fragmented and difficult to follow. You weren't talking about objective reality. You're talking about using language somehow to manufacture consent without objective reality coming into it.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

In computing, an abstraction layer or abstraction level is a way of hiding the working details of a subsystem.

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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sure. But by "hiding" we mean "make irrelevant" not "make secret".

The purpose is that you can refactor the subsystem without affecting the rest of the system, because the specifics of the implementation is "hidden".

Do you agree that scouse is a dialect?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you agree that scouse is a dialect?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I agree that the mRNA vaccine is not a real vaccine. An example you flat out ignored, in order to craft your statements, that a particular dialect is an example you can use in order to discredit my statements.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree that the mRNA vaccine is not a real vaccine.

Do you agree that scouse is a dialect?