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[–]VraiBleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Change happens when people vote with their wallet

Sorry but that’s a bit naive. Change happens when rich financiers manipulate events to their advantage.

The only recourse the people have ever had is to band together & beat the financiers to death.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

It isn't naive, it is a simple fact. I didn't say it was the only method of instigating change, but it's an effective one which everyone is able to contribute to. It holds more power than petty protesting. Banding together does fuck all if it has no leverage.

[–]VraiBleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

The leverage is violence.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Violence undermines credibility and loses respect. Look at Antifa scum. Violence achieves little of worth without consequence.

[–]VraiBleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

When anti-fa scum attack us in the streets & burn our cities is it bad for the people to fight back?

Violence or the threat of violence is literally what all politics come down to. States literally operate on having a monopoly on force.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Maybe in lib-shit cities. Violence achieves a little in the short term and absolutely fuck all in the long term. Makes people no better than the Antifa scum. So no, it isn't the answer, it's only a defence if required.

[–]VraiBleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Lol, this is why so called conservatives always lose. You are never willing to take action

“Let’s all just vote with our wallets” good luck with that when companies spend billions on advertising that is literally designed to brainwash you into buying their shit.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Conservatives have been running the UK for the last 13 years, but the Labour mayor of London has run it into the ground allowing knife crime to go out of control, the left love violence. Prior to the Conservatives, Labour got us involved in America's bullshit war in the middle east and wrecked the country with an unlimited flow of illegal immigrants which hasn't been curtailed to date. How are those lib-shit cities doing on crime rates by the way?

The left wing has a habit of failing miserably in everything the try, just look at communism and how that worked out every single time. Or perhaps we look at the eco protesters who relentlessly pester the public riddled with hypocrisy while completely missing the point that only policy and corporations can make significant changes, not individuals.

Violence achieves nothing but setbacks and can often work against the perpetrators, else is used as a weapon against them by means of media smear campaigns.

Typical left wing Marxism and radical progressive bullshit preaches aggression and pushy reform instead of using intellect and conversation to win.

[–]VraiBleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The Tories (UK Conservative Party) are not ‘conservatives’ in any real sense. They have surrendered every key argument to the Left for the last 70 years to the extent that there is no difference between them and the Labour Party.

Both parties support flooding the country with immigration, Brits are now projected to be a minority by 2066. Both support LGBT nonsense, both worship non whites (particularly blacks & Jews), both denigrate their own history to the point where children are taught to hate their own race & ethnicity. Both supported pointless wars like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya & Syria.

This is also true for the US Republican Party and ‘conservative’ parties across the West. If you identify as a “conservative” and actually want to get your country back then don’t rely on any of these fools.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There is a difference between the left starting a problem and failure to fix a problem started by left, the latter is more forgivable. The goalposts always move but we are essentially still talking about degenerate action Vs less degenerate action. Resorting to violence to make your point is retarded, it is for retards.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Rich financiers don't have that much control. The truth is nobody is in charge, and nobody knows what's going on. It's chaos all the way down.

[–]VraiBleu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Partly, but the 0.1% clearly have a massive negative impact on society.