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[–]xoenix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Was linked with proof.

[–]WetAssPussy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Linked to a discussion of the approaches and influence of the Pritzkers. Also, first I've seen it.. Tablet Magazine are however heavily biased to right wing misinformation propaganda fn1; fn2. Did Obama or the Pritzker's create a culture war on reality? Did they have that much power and influence? Even if it were true - like something in a Marvel comic - it would be almost impossible to prove. There's also not sufficient evidence.

[–]xoenix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

[–]WetAssPussy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Thanks for the info - but as usual - these far right people are focusing on the efforts of just a few people and generalizing those actions to the broader context of 400 million people. It just doesn't work. Of course there are influencers who've tried to promote social change. They were not as effective as we're sometimes led to believe by highly biased sources. For what it's worth, I hear arguments like this often from an older relative of mine, who will use one example to expand that circumstance to the public in general. It's crazy. Sure, the Pritzkers were somewhat influential, but it's easy to show that their incfluence was quite limited. Whenever you see these one-example-fits-all analogies, they're always missing one general factor: the diversity of human agency.

[–]xoenix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

"Far right". 😂 Bilek is a former Greenpeacer who blames this madness on corporate greed and influence. Makes a heck of a lot more sense than any benevolent motivation.

[–]WetAssPussy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Lots of former liberals have converted to crazy conspiratards. In the 1960s and 70s, liberals were the original conspiratards. Radical Republicanism developed their own - different - conspiracies during c. mid-1980s and today, focused only on politics. Hence former liberal boomers are now commonly saying that they know an ex-CIA person who knows that Michelle Obama hasa penis, and stuff like that. And while your head explodes with those tidbits of history, notice that The Federalist and The11thHourBlog are obviously far right misinformation propaganda outlets.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Aw. We were almost getting somewhere, and then you reverted to bot mode. Maybe another time then.

[–]WetAssPussy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm obviously not any of the things you want me to be. Try to develop arguments that don't depend on who or what I am. Also, look up conspiracy theories of the 1970s, and how they differ from the political conspiracies since the mid-1980s.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This isn't a theory. It's a documented money trail.

[–]WetAssPussy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

drop in the ocean

[–]fla_ral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You keep on making shit up without a shred of source though. while your interlocutor quotes sources.