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[–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks.

I am a programmer, so I can relate to the idea of cyber-freemen, but it is a little complicated. Programmers rarely control their own economic destiny and generally team up with elites for business. This has a corrupting effect on programmers, and programming is currently one of the most depraved areas of human activity (about tied with modern music). Any programmer with sound values will be an outcast in the world of programming, and this applies just as much to open source. It is extremely difficult to find undepraved programmers. I just advertised for one, and after paying for an ad that is listed all over the world, I managed to find one worth hiring. You can see my thoughts on programming issues here. For programmers to really become freemen, there must be some way for them to earn a living other than by serving the elites.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is. Check out the work of Marko Saric. I'm sorry I don't have many other people to list; my memory's hazy when I'm tired. (I only remembered Marko because I was just talking to him.)

If you poke around a bit, you'll find a place where we all hang out and chat. I'm not linking it here (like I used to when Saidit was young), because I seriously don't trust that it won't end up swarmed by a renegade band of trolls if I do.

(Thanks /u/JasonCarswell for pinging me. I'm barely active here, so you timed that excellently.)

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks.

Also, IMO, SaidIt has improved again since the IP2 guys were ejected. Also, now that this post is no longer front page you could likely link it safely without a swarm of asstrolls.

Also, /u/Ynlinga codes, as mentioned here: /s/AskSaidIt/comments/6gy3/what_solutions_exist_now_that/

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, now that this post is no longer front page you could likely link it safely without a swarm of asstrolls.

Unfortunately, I'm not active enough on Saidit that they couldn't just go through my comment history after I wound them up. Everyone in this thread is aware of it though (in fact, you have an account there), so there's no need to mention it. Anyone interested can DM one of us to ask, or follow the not-so-subtle clues I've already left.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

IMO, you shouldn't let folks bug you - especially if you firmly believe you're doing the right thing. Stay open to improving, but ignore the asstrolls. And, IMO, don't bother with "clues". Make things obvious and clear. There's enough in this world to ponder over.