Babylon is fallen: Vatican's worship of Mary (4) - iConnectFX™

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[–]LearningTheLand 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

No, it is not. Reverence is a deep respect for someone, Worship is devotion in soul and mind and body to God. While worship had a portion of reverence to it it is deeper than that.

Nor are the saints worshiped, I understand people don't understand Catholicism despite it being thousands of years old and with a catechism but people really should make an effort to understand something rather than make things up.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

it was influenced by isis, a virgin that gave birth

[–]LearningTheLand 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

No it was not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0-EgjUhRqA here are the Lutherans explaining. That influenced by Isis thing is an attempt to say that Jesus was created from elements of others mythology.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I have a question, so this is the christianity sub so surely I should not ridicule christianity nor do I want to, but it's ok to ridicule catholocism? Or is that offensive to you?

Shouldn't Jesus just be venerated and not worshipped? He is the son of god, not God himself. Of course the trinity says they're the same thing but that is nonsense IMO. That's not what the messiah is.

[–]LearningTheLand 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Why ridicule at all? Have solid arguments and explanations with backings and understand your sources and be open to new sources - also be open to the possibility of being wrong.

Jesus is God Himself, where did you get the idea that Jesus is not God? Baptists accept Jesus is God, Catholics accept Jesus is God, Anglicans accept Jesus is God, Lutherans accept that Jesus is God, which Christianity groups do not accept Jesus as God?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

so Jesus is God. Is Jesus the son of God? It is double think they used to get people to believe things that are obviously not true, if you control a mind you control the person 100%. The early christian community did not believe Jesus was god. The word christ, or messiah, meant savior. Catholics made up the trinity years late at the council of nicea. There was much controversy over this.

It's like if jews said Moses was god, or if muslims said Mohhamad was Allah.

[–]LearningTheLand 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Jesus is God and the son of God yes. It's not double think, it just is. God is a divine being after all.

Where is your evidence that early Christians did not believe Jesus was God? https://www.michaeljkruger.com/did-the-earliest-christians-really-think-jesus-was-god-one-important-example/

But Jews didn't say Moses was God, neither did Muslims say Mohhamad was Allah.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah they didn't say that cuz it made no sense. Before nicea it was up for debate. Arianism disagreed. For examples the latter day saints and Jehovah's Witnesses disagree on that today. But maybe this should be discussed on the catholicism sub and not this one. You're catholic correct?

[–]LearningTheLand 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

All Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholic.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and this isn't the catholic sub so what's your point

[–]Heterophobe4Life 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Said the racist.

[–]Heterophobe4Life 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Said the racist.