How can we get more people to join this site and more importantly make sure that it has good diversity of opinion?

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[–]bobbobbybob 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

effectively drown out more moderate and left leaning people

Why not stay on reddit, which is a left-leaning cess pool?

I'm here personally because I'm a huge 1st emendment advocate

Ah, so you want the appearance of free speech, without actually having to deal with dissenting voices.

even distribution of right and left leaning views

Who defines the 'centre' about which you can conveniently place your 'left and right' in equal harmony? The very idea of a linear spectrum is assinine. I'm a hard left conservative socialist, if you want to play with words, but do any of them mean anything?

The label reduction stifles the cncepts being discussed, as people retreat to their paltry concepts, built from a bombardment of mainstream 'talking points'.

Break free, my friend, and be prepared to discuss ideas and thoughts without having to take a partisan position. The truth doesn't care how we label it, indeed, they just get in the way of us seeing it clearly.

There is a great rule in place - the discussion pyramid. Try and stick to it and you'll help build the forum you want to use.

[–]Zombi 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I agree with your 3rd point, but I feel you're completely misreading his point in the first 2 quotes.

He's not saying he wants this place to be a left leaning liberal paradise. He's saying he's worried the users kicked off reddit (who are much more likely to be right-leaning) will drown out left leaning stances. He's actually advocating for free speech and equal representation, while it seems like you're advocating for censorship with how your response amounting to "If you want more left representation then you should just leave." If he had said "We should promote those with left leaning views" then you'd be correct, but he isn't and you're not.

He's not advocating to silence the right or dissenting voices, he's advocating for more representation for the left. You're actually the one advocating for censorship/anti-first amendment rights right now...

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That is a pretty gross misrepresentation of my words.

"If you want more left representation then you should just leave."

Is not anything I said. I said. If you want to be in a left leaning place, why did you leave the left-leaning place. "why not stay..." is a long way for "leave ..."

You're actually the one advocating for censorship/anti-first amendment rights right now...

Dear god. No. I'm not. If that's what you read in my words, then communication has failed.

[–]Zombi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well I can accept that miscommunication occurred and that was the point of my post. I'm sorry if I twisted your words, it was not my intention. I understand where you're coming from better.

My main point remains, though. This user is not advocating for left dominance, they are advocating for equal representation of all views.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Imma going to condense it right down:

what is 'left and right anyway, but an artificial and imposed duality that has no real meaning is is actually destructively unhelpful'?

[–]slabgreen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Left" and "right" are meaningful as any other terms. All words are made up.

[–]Drewski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, but in the context of American politics they're intentionally misleading and divisive.