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[–]detty[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Now my opinion: I'm personally all for it. I don't support any extreme measures, or any infringement on the rights of an individual whatsoever. I think that societal pressure works best and we, as a society, should discourage genetically defective people from reproducing.

That's what it was like in my country in 00s - early 10s. Ugly, mentally ill people, people with hereditary diseases and overall shitty genes were shamed left and right if they chose to have kids. The fundraisers for the disabled babies were largely laughed at, everyone involved in the process faced extreme judgement. I grew up with the idea that genetically defective people shouldn't reproduce and everyone seemed to agree with that... until it suddenly became a "wrong" thing to say. And right about that time our government started to implement integrative education, which proved itself completely useless to one party and counterproductive to the other. Luckily, I will only have to put up with this shit until June, but I feel sorry for the remaining students who will have to deal with the consequences of inclusivity, especially since more and more parents are shoving their retarded kids down everyone's throats.

I see nothing wrong with wanting a healthy population, though not when it's achieved by forced sterilization, murders, etc. In other words – I support eugenics, but strongly oppose the nazi implementation of the idea.

[–]YoMamma 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seems you're against eugenics, though in favor of - for example - 1st term abortion of fetuses that would be born with serious defects, or - for example - sterilization of people who can pass on serious genetic problems. What I think some in this thread are conflating is this, as summarized rather well by a bot:

Artificial selection and eugenics are related concepts but with different implications and ethical considerations.

Artificial selection, also known as selective breeding, is the process by which humans intentionally breed plants or animals with specific desirable traits to produce offspring with those traits. This process has been used for centuries in agriculture to improve crop yields and in animal husbandry to create specific breeds with desired characteristics. [this happens today and many agree with it]

Eugenics, on the other hand, is a social philosophy and a set of practices that aims to improve the genetic quality of a human population. It involves promoting reproduction among individuals with desirable traits and discouraging or preventing reproduction among those with perceived undesirable traits. Historically, eugenics has been associated with coercive and discriminatory practices, including forced sterilization and other human rights abuses. [this is the eugenics problem that many naturally disagree with]

While artificial selection focuses on the breeding of plants and animals for specific traits, eugenics pertains to human populations and has been widely criticized for its ethical implications, including its association with discriminatory and harmful practices.