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[–]Hematomato 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I'm... not really noticing that.

Cunninglingus is left-wing but not really a "I'm gonna report you for Hate Speech" type.

And then after them, who else is even left? Me?? I mean, on the mainstream sites I'm considered conservative. And I'm practically a free-speech absolutist. I'm only "woke" by saidit standards, because saidit's Overton window is realllllly far to the right.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Cunninglingus is left-wing but not really a "I'm gonna report you for Hate Speech" type.

That's the other person I've noticed. No, he/she doesn't seem like the report type, but they are super-woke and obnoxious, which is why I don't deal with them anymore.

No, the people I've noticed have accounts less than two months old and have barely posted anything. The freakshow I just dealt with recently though is the "everything is transphobic" type of dipshit I just have absolutely no more patience for, anymore. I can handle looney liberals like that Vulpix guy who thinks he's a fox girl, as long as we can agree to disagree. I can even handle people like you causally dropping the "I hate niggers" lines all the time like you've been holding in a fart for half an hour. What I can't handle are the "everyone are Istaphobes" shitstains straight out of Reddit itself who bring absolute misery and hatred everywhere they go. Even on this site, those fucking people are unbearable. They're entitled to spew their retarded, angry, woke, virtue-signaling, witch hunt bullshit, but is anyone really entitled to listen to them? No.

[–]Hematomato 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't think Vulptex actually is liberal. Yeah, they think that they're a floating fox girl with dead ghost eyes and no legs - and that's certainly weird - but they don't believe that out of ideology. Just because of, well, mental illness. They don't even deny that - they think their mental illness is the result of trauma in a past life.

I think I've typed "nigger" exactly once (well, twice now), while I was pretty deep in my cups. Fascinating fucking word, isn't it. I can type fifty thousand words on here and if I type that one, it's the only one anyone will remember. Puting those six letters in that specific order will define my very life and sense of morality. Before I came here, I hadn't even seen it used as an earnest racial slur in the better part of a decade. It's turned into some kind of totemic "curse" word in the original sense of "curse," like if you dare to put those letters in that order, Bloody Mary will emerge from the mirror and murder your children with a machete.

I'm no fan of the "everybody's an istaphobe" crowd. I just haven't seen them on saidit. That kind of behavior just doesn't work unless they have a large group who will back them up. Calling someone a "phobe" just doesn't do anything unless there's an agreement to socially shun that person for being a "phobe."

[–]Mcheetah[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I don't mind curse words or even insults like that, cause I've been around the internet long enough. I just hate hypocrisy, given the context you used to unironically call me "nigger" was to defend illegal immigrants sneaking into the US by the millions and argued "racism" was the only reason anyone would have a problem with them and not the burden on society, the economy, the legal system, and the general disrespect they have for Americans.

I just haven't seen them on saidit

I've seen at least three of them in the past two weeks. And if anyone has a username that implies they're female, such as "Angela" (or "Clown_Chan,") then they're 100% a transwoman on here, potentially ready to start drama and shit cause they're mentally ill attention whores.

That kind of behavior just doesn't work unless they have a large group who will back them up. Calling someone a "phobe" just doesn't do anything unless there's an agreement to socially shun that person for being a "phobe."

You're applying logic to crazy, retarded, extremely negative and mean-spirited people who bully others on the internet daily and think they're the most morally righteous people in the world for having a basic belief that "bigotry is wrong" that they themselves don't even adhere to. That's your first mistake.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't mind curse words or even insults like that, cause I've been around the internet long enough. I just hate hypocrisy, given the context you used to unironically call me "nigger" was to defend illegal immigrants sneaking into the US by the millions and argued "racism" was the only reason anyone would have a problem with them.

Yeah, I hate hypocrisy, too.

And I don't know where you stand on the issue of race. I admit I fully just assumed you hate being called a nigger and being considered something "lesser" than other people for something you can't control, and - you know what - that was racist of me. Because I made an assumption about your mind based on the color of your skin, and that's fucking racist. And I'm honestly sorry.

If my assumption happened to be right, though, then I'm sorry, but I do think you're being a hypocrite. Excluding people from happy, normal lives based on the latitude of their birth is exactly the same thing as excluding them from happy, normal lives based on the color of their skin.

You're applying logic to crazy, retarded, extremely negative and mean-spirited people. That's your first mistake.

I know a lot of woke people. Very, very woke people. And, you know what? They're no crazier, retarded, negative, or mean-spirited than anyone else.

They're not better, either, of course. They're just people, and the natural impulse of people is to believe whatever the guy next to them believes, in order to be popular. Whether that's thing is that it's evil not to want to fuck a man in a dress, or whether that thing is that the meaning of life is to apologize to a dead carpenter for being naughty, 95% of us will just believe anything that gives us friends. That's what it means to be human, I guess.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If my assumption happened to be right, though, then I'm sorry, but I do think you're being a hypocrite. Excluding people from happy, normal lives based on the latitude of their birth is exactly the same thing as excluding them from happy, normal lives based on the color of their skin.

Except I spent like half an hour arguing LEGAL immigration is a thing too, and nobody is entitled to leech off of taxpaying Americans while also shitting on them and insulting them after sneaking into their country and refusing to integrate into their language, traditions, and customs, so it's not even remotely the same comparison. But you know what? Agree to disagree. I don't feel like getting into this again.

They're no crazier, retarded, negative, or mean-spirited than anyone else.

I have to disagree there. There's a difference between thinking aborting a six week old embryo is "baby murder" and believing in literal fairy tales about magic carpenters who can turn water into wine, from thinking that literally just declaring yourself a woman, as a 6'3" 30 year old dude with a cock and balls, objectively makes you a woman. Or that someone disagreeing with you on the internet about politics justifies you getting them fired, divorced, and ending up homeless on the street. Totally different levels of crazy, retardedness, negativity, and mean-spiritedness.

They're just people, and the natural impulse of people is to believe whatever the guy next to them believes, in order to be popular. ...95% of us will just believe anything that gives us friends.

That's natural of STUPID people, yes. And yes, 95% of humanity is full of idiots, in my opinion. Some are more idiotic and incapable of critical thinking than others, though. Maybe that's why I only have like three friends?

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Except I spent like half an hour arguing LEGAL immigration is a thing too, and nobody is entitled to leech off of taxpaying Americans while also shitting on them and insulting them after sneaking into their country and refusing to integrate into their language, traditions, and customs, so it's not even remotely the same comparison. But you know what? Agree to disagree. I don't feel like getting into this again.

Yeah, I just don't understand people who are legalistic. Like "If the law says it's okay for Standard Oil to pour its used oil in your water supply, then that is fine. And if the law says it's evil to smoke a joint in your own house, then that is evil and your life should rightfully be destroyed."

Like, we all know that lots of evil things have been legal, and that lots of evil laws have punished people who weren't hurting everyone. We all know that. The law doesn't say what's right and what's wrong. It just says what the people in power insist on happening, and how they're going to hurt you for defying them.

I have to disagree there. There's a difference between thinking aborting a six week old embryo is "baby murder," and that literally just declaring yourself a woman, as a 6'3" 30 year old dude with a cock and balls, objectively makes you a woman. Or that someone disagreeing with you on the internet justifies you getting them fired, divorced, and ending up homeless on the street. Totally different levels of crazy, retardedness, negativity, and mean-spiritedness.

I'm not sure why you're bringing abortion into this.

Right now, the left has the momentum, and they're doing everything to punish people who don't share their beliefs. And that sucks.

Sixty years ago, the right had the momentum, and they did everything to punish people who don't share their beliefs. You know. McCarthyism. The belief that Communist spies were everywhere. The belief that you literally had to worship a made-up god to be an American.

The right will take the momentum back eventually, and then they'll be crazy assholes once again. No need to worry about that failing to happen. It's the pendlum of history.

That's natural of STUPID people, yes. And yes, 95% of humanity is full of idiots, in my opinion. Some are more idiotic and incapable of critical thinking than others, though. Maybe that's why I only have like three friends?

Yeah, we're pretty much on the same page. It's why I drink so much. To make myself incapable of critical thinking, so I can just play my keytar and make jokes about my dick. Then I have friends. Back when I was sober, I only had like three.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Like, we all know that lots of evil things have been legal, and that lots of evil laws have punished people who weren't hurting everyone. We all know that. The law doesn't say what's right and what's wrong. It just says what the people in power insist on happening, and how they're going to hurt you for defying them.

I agree with you, except when the laws are actually useful and prevent people from being harmed or causing harm. Illegal immigration causes harm to all those involved, even the "kids in cages" and the illegals getting shot by vigilantes if someone wants to be all liberal about it. Not quite the same thing as banning marijuana or streaming movies over the internet without paying royalties.

The right will take the momentum back eventually, and then they'll be crazy assholes once again. No need to worry about that failing to happen. It's the [pendulum] of history.

I fully agree with that. Only, it wasn't even as far back as the 60s. The right were being authoritarian even as recently as the 2000s after 9/11 happened. That's why politics is always a battle of the lesser of two evils, which right now, is the conservative right. But both sides are generally pretty retarded and want to take away your rights based on moral fagging and self righteousness, abortion being just one example of the right doing that and wanting the government to take away people's bodily autonomy. But yeah, the left is worse right now and started in Obama's second term. Doesn't mean the right doesn't have its Idiot Takes, too. McCarthyism never left; now it's just called Cancel Culture.

Getting back to my main point, the woke has been far more effective in censorship and generally fucking up society than the right has been in a long time. Which is why I don't want them ruining Saidit like they did Reddit.

[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I fully agree with that. Only, it wasn't even as far back as the 60s. The right were being authoritarian even as recently as the 2000s after 9/11 happened. That's why politics is always a battle of the lesser of two evils, which right now, is the conservative right. But both sides are generally pretty retarded and want to take away your rights based on moral fagging and self righteousness, abortion being just one example of the right doing that and wanting the government to take away people's bodily autonomy. But yeah, the left is worse right now and started in Obama's second term. Doesn't mean the right doesn't have its Idiot Takes, too. McCarthyism never left; now it's just called Cancel Culture.

Getting back to my main point, the woke has been far more effective in censorship and generally fucking up society than the right has been in a long time. Which is why I don't want them ruining Saidit like they did Reddit.

Couldn't agree more with this part. In fact, I can narrow it down even further. The left became authoritarian in 2014-2015. Somehow, some weird combination of GamerGate and Elliot Rodger and Anita Sarkeesian and Obergefell v. Hodges and Michael Brown broke the left. It was shockingly abrupt. I'd been a Democrat all my life and suddenly I didn't recognize my own party at all.

Illegal immigration causes harm to all those involved, even the "kids in cages" and the illegals getting shot by vigilantes YouTube if someone wants to be all liberal about it.

This part, though? This part is exactly like blaming a pot-smoker for getting the shit kicked out of him by police. "Hey, man, shouldn't have smoked that joint. In a way, you broke your own nose with that nightstick."

[–]Mcheetah[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The left became authoritarian in 2014-2015. Somehow, some weird combination of GamerGate and Elliot Rodger and Anita Sarkeesian and Obergefell v. Hodges and Michael Brown broke the left.

It mainly started in 2011 after the corporations co-opted Occupy Wall Street and started letting these lunatics in, which utterly destroyed that movement using said woke idiots, like that girl named Ketchup. That's when the corporations realized they can use these lunatics to their advantage. (I wasn't even a part of Occupy Wall Street; I just knew a lot of people who were and some of the protesting was fucking up my daily college commute, at the time.)

Soon after that, the whole Trevyon Martin/George Zimmerman thing happened in 2013, which lead to Black Lives Matter becoming a thing.

Then in 2014, the corrupt media tested how far they could get away with outright fucking lying with GamerGate. (GamerGate being about exposing corrupt video games journalism, but said journalists used a completely made-up and bullshit lie about "Zoe Quinn being harassed by sexists" and "misogyny on the internet," and the outside mainstream media ran with the false narrative, which lead to Anita Sarkeesian's career-long-grift beginning.)

Then sometime in 2015, Obama legalized gay marriage, and (he also secretly funded) ANTIFA, leading them to become a thing by recruiting impressionable young idiots on college campuses. 2015 is when the radical left began doing real world violence and getting away with it by corrupt Democratic politicians giving them a permanent "get out of jail free" card, which is what lead to modern-day California and San Francisco.

Then in 2016, after the successful "GamerGate is misogyny" propaganda, they took their virtue shielding to the next level with Ghostbusters 2016, claiming ANYONE who didn't like that shitshow of a movie was "a racist" and proceeded to cancel them.

And of course, Trump "snuck through" the gate and became president, even though the whole plan was to use him as a troll to make Hillary look good. What they didn't account for, was how much hated Hillary was, which is why she didn't even try to campaign. Which is ALSO why in 2020, they over-corrected so much by outright fucking rigging the election, that anyone who isn't an idiot can see Biden didn't get 81 fucking million votes, when even the left didn't want him as president. (Liberal Americans wanted Bernie Sanders and the DNC fucked over Bernie cause he wasn't as mailable of a puppet as Biden.)

Then in 2017, Alyssa Milano began the whole #MeToo and started canceling straight men for literally no reason, which led to Cancel Culture.

Then from 2018 to about 2022, BlackRock started getting involved with Hollywood, funding ESG propaganda from Terminator Last Fate, to Birds of Prey, to the Charlies Angels reboot. But they really targeted their propaganda towards television more.

...And that's how Clown World, slowly but surely, became Clown World. (I'm probably going to make a separate post on all of this later; someone needs to preserve the history.) 2023 was the breaking point for normies, especially with the whole Bud Light thing, and everyday people have had enough. Wokeness is now on its way out, but it'll still be years before it's completely faded away.

Although me mostly being young was to blame, I was a liberal throughout most of this. Not woke; not Progressive. Just a normal liberal. And unlike most people, I don't have a short memory or attention span. I remember all of this shit happening. Now, being a liberal makes you a fascist who calls others fascists, and you're as retarded and literally useless to society as /u/ Cunninlingus. I've ALWAYS been a Constitutionalist, but never loyal to either side of politics. It's the left that changed.

This part is exactly like blaming a pot-smoker for getting the shit kicked out of him by police.

I disagree, considering the dozen or so points I already brought up in the past. As the video I linked before shows, illegal immigration is like trespassing into someone else's house at night, getting your ass kicked by the man living there, then suing because they hit you... Then having a judge take the side of the trespasser/criminal because they're emotionally weak. I can tell you're personally invested in illegal immigration, either yourself or through friends or family, which is why you have such an illogical take on this, but logical in other things. But it's fine; agree to disagree, like I said. We're not going to change each other's minds on this.

[–]KleinWolf35 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Report the sewer drillers for spreading hate speech. Turn their own weapons against them.

[–]CheeseWizard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

u/cunninglingus What are your thoughts, did SaidIt had a recent influx of pro censorship people?

[–]cunninglingus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Obviously - Mcheetah is a troll who enjoys making dumb comments that he knows might get votes (though there is nothing of substance or accuracy here). It's a self-actualization game for him. He merely wants the attention. Sometimes his trolling is funny; sometimes it's incredibly stupid. It's always pathetic. He's not asked about pro censorship people. He's asked about woke, mentally ill assholes. We know that Saiditors will attack anyone they think is woke. If they arrived, they did not stay longer than a few minutes. Mcheetah refers to a recent AsSaidit post from a new user who said that "trans women are women". That immediately gave Mcheetah this idea for a post, knowing that 99% of Saidit are foaming at the mouth with anger when they see a comment like that, because the lives of others are of deep concern to Saiditors, if those lives do not align with the brainwashed notion pushed by far right fascists that everyone should conform to the same sickly pale color, notions of only two genders, limited notions of sexuality, notions of eugenics, and notions of everyone being robotic simulacra of the perfect Nazi. It's the dumbest aspect of Saidit.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I definitely don't perceive u/Mcheetah as a troll. I get the distinct impression of someone voicing their actual opinions, and being happy to have a space to voice them.